Trading breakouts

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by gifropan, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. have you not seen the charts i just posted?
     
    #41     Mar 2, 2010
  2. You've fallen into the trap of the lump of gains fallacy, and the fallacy of the predetermined gain. You're ignoring opportunity costs.
     
    #42     Mar 2, 2010
  3. Right. They illustrated "if you'd bot here, you would have made x". You failed to post all the charts where, if you'd bot there, you would have lost money.
     
    #43     Mar 2, 2010
  4. The market is a "soft" science meaning that its largely built off assumptions. You cant attach some mathematical fallacy theory because its not going to hold up 100% of the time.
     
    #44     Mar 2, 2010
  5. GG1972

    GG1972

    :confused: :confused:

    You always enter the trade as a random probability --doesnt matter if its got 80% success rate the outcome is still 50:50 or random only thing is over period of time you expect to do better than 50:50 however you choose.

    My last post. Thanks
     
    #45     Mar 2, 2010
  6. Maybe I should be more clear . . . Let's assume you knew both the direction and magnitude of the stocks future move, but you didn't know the path. In that case, you might try to increase your gains by holding out for a better price. Of course, you might miss out on some of the move if you don't get a better price . . . but that's the risk you take. In that scenario, you're trying to improve the price. So buying lower makes sense.

    But in the real market, you don't know either the magnitude, direction, or path. So you have to choose the set-ups with the best expectancy. Those are the strong stocks. By buying lower, you're ignoring expectancy to improve price. That's the lump of gains fallacy -- but gains aren't predetermined, they're uncertain. And you're already imagining that the move is predetermined -- the fallacy of the predetermined move.
     
    #46     Mar 2, 2010
  7. spd

    spd

    LOL fair enough.
     
    #47     Mar 3, 2010
  8. now that we took out the newb and hit their stop losses, we had a nice push today. Lets wait for the retrace for the next leg up.
     
    #48     Mar 5, 2010
  9. GG1972

    GG1972

    Updated list of breakouts
    ACE AKAM AMZN BDK BIDU BXP CM COF CSCO DLTR EL FFIV GMCR GS LMT NYX NKE PSA RIMM RTH SLG SNDK TD VAR WERN V UNP
     
    #49     Mar 9, 2010
  10. GG1972

    GG1972

    missing AAPL C from list--plethora of breakouts this time though
     
    #50     Mar 9, 2010