Trading bitcoin via mstr in 2025

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by johnarb, Jan 18, 2025.

  1. johnarb

    johnarb

    still doesn't make sense to give you a loan of 4-6%, might as well the bank buys US Treasuries, anyway, if you put a big down payment, that would make sense but there goes your argument about making money work for you

    they will use the shares to buy more bitcoin, where have you been, they've been doing this for over 4 years

    btw, my mstr calls position you're obsessed with is different than the one on this thread

    i have said many times that i will provide an update on that mstr calls position from last year when it's $1M profits m2m, I estimate before end of March
     
    #51     Jan 22, 2025
  2. Yeah, but if you're holding Mstr shares, the Bitcoin per share is going to be diluted... And how is price ever going to get back to $500 with this amount of dilution? So how is your strike ever going to finish in the money now?
     
    #52     Jan 22, 2025
  3. johnarb

    johnarb

    no, the bitcoin per share has been increasing significantly

    the mstr will go up as bitcoin price goes up which is going to happen for the next 3 months

    read the OP for why it's going to happen

     
    #53     Jan 22, 2025
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  4. I don't care what the talking heads are saying... they don't have a clue. What I'm talking about is pure dilution.
     
    #54     Jan 22, 2025
  5. johnarb

    johnarb

    that's not talking heads, that's Saylor giving the math breakdown, you can calculate the bitcoin per share
     
    #55     Jan 22, 2025
  6. You don't have to. There's a site that tracks it all. So what's going to happen after the share offering? You have to divide by however many shares.

    MSTR Tracker - Real-time MicroStrategy Bitcoin Analytics https://www.mstr-tracker.com/
     
    #56     Jan 22, 2025
  7. johnarb

    johnarb

    there you go, wait for it when it happens and check the site
     
    #57     Jan 22, 2025
  8. NoahA

    NoahA

    I'd love to hear why are you thinking on such a precise target? Most do say that this is the 4th year of the cycle, so anywhere in 2025, but how do you come to 3 months?
     
    #58     Jan 23, 2025
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  9. johnarb

    johnarb

    Sorry, didn't mean to say that the bull market will be over in 3 months, I'm bullish for the whole year of 2025 especially the last 3 months of the year

    However, for this thread and the 2 trading positions would prefer to close them out before April 10

    In 2021 and 2017 and even past 3 years, Sell in May, summer selloff has occurred between April and Sept

    If bitcoin does not have a big move up before April 10, then I will consider holding the 2 positions for longer

    But if I could close out the 2 positions mentioned on the OP,

    I still have the mstr calls position from last year which will not be closed until after July

    tl;dr, bullish the whole year, just some derisking if good profits by April 10
     
    #59     Jan 23, 2025
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  10. long

    long

    #60     Jan 24, 2025
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