Trading as a small business

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by ccrjr1, Mar 20, 2019.

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    #11     Mar 20, 2019
  2. I registered as a single-member llc and classified as a disregarded entity for tax purposes and should have QBI losses for at least three years which I would then use to increase my capital for trading.I too trade part time until I retire and do not need my trading income.
     
    #12     Mar 20, 2019
  3. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    Don't forget...
    Sched C "income" counts towards EITC.
    The EITC tax credit, which is refundable, is up to $6400+ filing jointly with 3 children.
    And since the Child Tax Credit which is also refundable and is not mutually exclusive, that adds another $2000 per child! With some tax engineering of the EITC income limit, in addition to your plan, you could potentially increase your trading capital in cash by 5 digits from refundable 2018 tax credits!!

    :cool::D
     
    #13     Mar 20, 2019
  4. it`s not a business, it`s a sport. or investment activity.

    it`s not a business where you have customers.
    the market doesn`t need you
    traders need the market more than the market needs traders.
    have you heard of abandon market. no volume, no trades nobody invest.
    people don`t have to invest or trade these stocks,bonds or forex etc.
    all speculators.
     
    #14     Mar 20, 2019
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    #15     Mar 21, 2019
  6. It is a business and you do have customers! Someone has to buy the stocks you sell which they are the customer and you can buy the stocks they are selling which you are the customer.
    Everyone depends on that something and that something depends on everyone or it will not exist. If not for traders the stock market does not exist or that stock is worthless.
     
    #16     Mar 21, 2019
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  7. Great questions but you will not pass the trade volume WHICH IS KEY!. 720 trades per year with a holding period of 31 days or less. Failing that, 'if' you get audited, you will fail and your business as a TTS will not be allowed. Did they setup the MTM election or even talk about it? If not, get a second opinion.
     
    #17     Mar 27, 2019
  8. Sig

    Sig

    Investment income is specifically excluded from QBI.
     
    #18     Jun 2, 2020
  9. I have 450 deals a year and this does not prevent my business from flourishing, because everything depends not on the number of deals but on the quality. If you have 1000 deals for a couple of dollars, it's one thing, but if you have 200 deals for 1000 dollars, it's a completely different matter. So I'll tell you, don't focus on what they say on the Internet. This is all bullshit. When I started my business, I did everything slowly, although everyone around me was always pushing me. But now my business is in the best San Diego business listings. My services are considered one of the best in San Diego. So don't listen to anyone.
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2020
    #19     Oct 12, 2020
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    True for a Roth + back door Roth.
    TWinks has a good/Green post. But if one is not supposed to pay taxes on a Roth/Back Door Roth/dont need TTS .Certain restrictions apply
    { Unless they changed the law + they may have,760 trades per year has nothing to do with it.}
    FOR taxable businesses remember to pay estimated quarterly taxes...…...The more you make , the more likely an audit.
     
    #20     Oct 14, 2020