TradersStudio Thread

Discussion in 'Trading Software' started by Gyles, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. Murray Ruggiero

    Murray Ruggiero Sponsor

    Time is HH_MM , not HHMM in textinfo.txt file.
     
    #121     Feb 3, 2009
  2. Murray Ruggiero

    Murray Ruggiero Sponsor

    Except for this change

    Value1=Max(H,Open)+PercOfBar/100*(H-L)
    Value2=Min(L,Open)-PercOfBar/100*(H-L)

    nothing else ,except I am running on the beta. You where looking at NextOpen, not open.

    You could contact sales, sales@TradersStudio.com and get a beta agreement and a beta version next week. We plan to open the beta up to new testers next week.

    You can get a Excel Viewer , Look at the link below

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...f4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=EN
     
    #122     Feb 3, 2009
  3. .... in other words the current version can not handle properly the order placement for a strategy as simple as an inside day ! How can I trust it for more complex tasks ????
    Frankly speaking I am a lot disappointed from what I saw today on my screen.
    I will see what happens with the new release and then I will decide if it is better to move to Trading Blox or something similar.
     
    #123     Feb 3, 2009
  4. Murray Ruggiero

    Murray Ruggiero Sponsor

    I made a decision to be very strict on what can and can not be done on daily data with same day entries and exits. The reason is your are kidding yourself when you get results. I have relaxed some of these in the new version because of comments like yours but, still I have my doubts. The only type of same bar trading I do is entering at the open or on a stop and exiting at the close.
    That vaild.

    You can test it in Trading Blox or anything you want get great results on daily bars and if you don't test what you are trying to do on intra-day bars , you are kidding yourself.

    These restrictions where done on purpose, as I said I have lifted some of them. It's not because our backtester was not design well and Trading Blox backtester was more complete. I wanted to stop people from doing testing which was not valid.

    Maybe I was wrong not allowing people to do things which are not valid and realistic.

    I have been trying to help you, have offered the beta to you after I release the next one and open the beta up to new testers again , in the next week or so. This comment bothers me

    How can I trust it for more complex tasks ????

    You can trust it, I did this on purpose because , I don't trust customers to understand the limitations of testing on daily bars. We have many customers including many famous traders who use TradersStudio as there research platform. They trust it , they trust even advanced features like walk forward analysis.


    If you have thing you want changed in the next release, please PM me and I will take them under consideration. We do care what our customers want, We are working on new documentation as I said, the documentation will be much more complete when the new version is released. Believe me I have taken most of your comments to heart.
     
    #124     Feb 3, 2009
  5. My comment bothers you. The 700 bucks I paid bother me. A lot !
    We are even.
    Beta testing: it is not up to me to see what works and what does not in your software. I have my work. Do yours.
    Sometimes we must be humble enough to understand that trying to reinvent the wheel makes more damage than benefit.
    You had just to copy Trade Station's approach with a 100% bouncing tick. This would have underestimated results avoiding what I see in your software. You can not leave the market do whatever it desires for the day of entry. Yes, I need a software I can trust: a software which places orders exactly in the way I code them. It is then up to the user to not fool himself. Trade Station's users are clearly warned of this risk and in so many years I never had problems. I am 45, I do not need a software "protecting" me, I need a software which does what I tell it to do, always and exactly.

    Anyway the software is yours, do whatever you want. This is a free world.
     
    #125     Feb 4, 2009
  6. I forgot to say that in some of yesterday's attempts I also found, in the same inside days' code I posted here but using StopSD, some unexplicable behaviors in bars AFTER the entry bar such as limit orders or stop losses not filled on a bar where they had been hit.
    I think now you can understand why I have changed my mind about your software.
     
    #126     Feb 4, 2009
  7. Murray Ruggiero

    Murray Ruggiero Sponsor

    Tradestation's approach is the problem, If you change the bouncing tick percentage I can take a losing system and make it a winner in fantasy land.
     
    #127     Feb 4, 2009
  8. Murray,
    I do not have anything against you, and the best proof of this is that I bought your software, but would you be so kind to include in the next release 2 reserved words for the entry bar, one to take profit with a limit and one to set a stop loss at any desired price ? Just this. Then it will be my care to not fool myself. Do not worry !
    Also, please, make sure that your software enters and exits on any bar at the specified price coded in the systems ( with any type of entry/exit ), because sometimes it pierces limit orders and stop losses without filling them.
     
    #128     Feb 5, 2009
  9. just some examples of what I want to do:
    if tomorrow opens above today's low I buy on the open, stop loss 1 tick below today's low, profit target 1.5 ATR above entry with a limit order. Stop loss and limit orders valid both for the entry bar and the following days.

    or if tomorrow's open is higher than the lowest low of the last 3 bars enter at the open + 50 ticks. Stop loss ( valid for the entry bar, too ) under Lowest(L,3) .... Limit order to take profit at entry + 3 times the ATR ( valid on the entry bar, too), etc.

    ... and so on ......

    Place the bouncing ticks' percentage at any value you think appropriate, warn people in the online help with red ink, but I really NEED you allow me to do this type of things !
     
    #129     Feb 5, 2009
  10. Murray Ruggiero

    Murray Ruggiero Sponsor

    That is the approach I am taking, using special functions forces people to use at their own risk.
     
    #130     Feb 5, 2009