Trader's home office deduction question

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by dcwriter2, Sep 29, 2021.

  1. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    No, it is not unusual or far-fetched. However, trading is explicitly singled out in the tax code.

    If it was true that filing a schedule C as a trading business unlocks a myriad of deductions, every bubba who makes a few dozen taxable (non-retirement account) trades a year would be doing it!!

    If you go this route, you must dot i's and cross T's regarding everything. It is not the same as an employer requiring you participate in zoom meetings from home!

    You can't even show trading profit or loss on a schedule C... there are only workarounds subject to the ire or acceptance of the IRS.

    Seek expert advise such as Green trader tax.
     
    #11     Sep 30, 2021
  2. Girija

    Girija

    No not all, but you see 300 is a round number and you also claim the max deductible. Hence the caution. What IRS does is something they only know. But we can do ourselves a favor by minimizing redheads. Don't take it personal.
     
    #12     Sep 30, 2021
  3. Girija

    Girija

    Sorry not redheads I meant red flags.
     
    #13     Sep 30, 2021
  4. mukoh

    mukoh

    Home office deductions should be reviewed with your CPA first as they are a sure way to get audited and clawed back with interest and penalties.

    EDIT.
    If you have an LLC it can rent from you for $XXX (better below market rate) and thus you will have income from the LLC and a deduction to the LLC which is the safest way, but you are really pinching on the penny tax savings at a cost of audit and clawback.
     
    #14     Sep 30, 2021
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    How about a swimming pool? You have your laptop on the side of the pool, and 30x10 or 25x15 (or whatever to make it 300 SqF) is not an abnormal size for a pool.

    So laptop at pool edge while in water, wifi connection to printer, cordless telephone near by. Maybe you could even deduct the cost of the chlorine! :)
     
    #15     Sep 30, 2021
  6. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    Nah... add the pool and chemicals to medical deductions. By itself, It might get to the 7.5% of AGI threshold. If not, put in a jacuzzi and a steam room!
     
    #16     Sep 30, 2021
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  7. VicBee

    VicBee

    With the huge number of employees working from home due to covid I'm sure lots of people will take the full deduct on the home office and I doubt the IRS will make a fuss.
    On the other hand, it's far more complex (because subjective) to claim trader status and the IRS will definitely hit you hard if it determines you don't qualify, including taking the full home office deduction.
     
    #17     Sep 30, 2021
  8. Girija

    Girija

    Nice try that has been specifically outlined as non deductible. Working from home is different from self employment.
    Prior to 2017 it wd have been possible. But TCJA 2017 act specifically suspended home office deduction for employees. Only self employed can avail home office deduction.
     
    #18     Sep 30, 2021
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  9. Be warned taking home office deduction, triggers audits more often than not. I know a guy who was audited 3 years in a row for taking a home office. He didn't have to pay any penalty but be aware.
     
    #19     Oct 1, 2021
  10. been taking it for several years now, and I am legit -- photos of it and everything. Only I'm in a new house now and paid cash instead of using a mortgage as part of the calculation. But thanks for the warning.
     
    #20     Oct 1, 2021