Trader28 informational thread

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by steve46, Jun 22, 2008.

  1. You've previously asserted that Jack does not trade.

    Jack posted a blotter which showed greater than 3x ATR.

    Clearly, on that day Jack traded at a skill level which far exceeds your own.

    I find it quite ironic that someone who doesn't trade for a living can't see through their own failures and recognize the evidence provided.

    Now, you need proof that he routinely trades at greater than 3x ATR.

    You can't generate enough profits with your own methods to trade full time, yet, you find it quite easy to bash others.

    Classic ET moment.

    The methods work. Believe it, or don't believe it. You make the call, but please, stop trying to act like once again the proof you requested doesn't exist.

    Keep digging in those High Heels, madam.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #261     Jul 9, 2008
  2. Let's face it, Spyder, this kid has completely disgraced himself and has zero credibility left. Let's review:

    1. He shows up and starts asking for help with pivot points and tape reading, saying he is 'only trying to learn'. Fair enough.

    2. He then gets banned for obscene PM's to long-time members.

    3. He then conceives an irrational fear of you and JH. He spend probably 5 hours a day for the past 3 months posting the same thing - that Jack has a ponytail and is over 65 years of age.

    4. He then starts to initiate threads with one username and then log out and log in with another and respond in his own thread, but not ironically like hypo - he apparently believes that people won't figure it out and will think that the OP has generated positive interest as opposed to derision.

    5. In a very ZZZzzzzzzz-like week, he finally snaps and posts the same post 52 times in a row. The mods of course delete them but not before many here were able to see them. When I say the same post, I mean the identical long post 52 times taking up some 16 pages with my extended page view setting. This indicates some sort of psychopathology, possibly a paranoid personality type.

    6. Under threat, he start to cut and paste the comments of others and use them as replies - again, exactly the same behaviour we saw with ZZZzzzzzzz.

    7. He then makes one of the worst market calls ever seen on ET, calling support at the exact top of a move. In a bizarre twist, he then denies having made the call, even thought the post is still up and is being quoted numerous times. He claims to have never made a losing trade.

    8. He has had a total of 22 usernames banned by the mods for infantile behaviour.

    9. He then admits that he has an extreme obesity problem and has been considering gastric bypass surgery.

    One of the biggest losers ET has ever seen, to be sure.
     
    #262     Jul 10, 2008
  3. You mean at Dungeons and Dragons?

    :)

    By the way, have you made a decision about the stomach stapling?
     
    #263     Jul 10, 2008
  4. lol...paper trading is one thing. Just wait until you open that first account and trade that first 100 shares. Things are going to get a lot different for you in a big hurry.

    By the way, nice call last week.

    Support is right here!!!

    One of the all-time classic ET bumbles!! And clearly documented for all time by Tums.

    (sigh)... too bad I couldn't sit down with you at a 5-10 No Limit table.
     
    #264     Jul 10, 2008
  5. lol... faggot. I guess that means "I give up", huh? I know you know you're in way over your head with me, because you never really insult me, you just keep telling the same stupid lies :)

    By the way, that *kiss kiss* faggot thing is dangerously close to what that ZZZzzzzzzz guy does when he is being owned. Apparently he just bails out into posting weird pictures.

    Do you guys go through some sort of Troll Training where you pick these techniques up? :cool: :) :p
     
    #265     Jul 10, 2008
  6. Yes, we know you have a good sense of taste, you fat slob.

    How about the gastirc bypass? Made a decision yet?
     
    #266     Jul 10, 2008
  7. Let's deal with facts and reality for once, OK?

    Show me where the "blotter" shows that Jack made 3X the range of that day. What I see is 5 winning trades totaling 9 points when the range was 25 points. Further, that "blotter" shows only one contract being traded in March. Jack's the one who claimed he makes 3X daily range in ES as a practice, so don't try to turn it around on me. And if that's the case, why not post something more recent and complete? Or better yet, call it live and put the debate to rest once and for all.

    You know nothing of my methods and profitability, so stop the false smears and propaganda. You've posted blatantly false info before to try and achieve this with T28, like here:
    Most reading this thread noted trader28's post about being "long and strong" seconds before the ES dropped 10 points.
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130684&perpage=6&pagenumber=6
    The only problem is, it took over 30 minutes for ES to drop 10 points, NOT "seconds."

    Talk about classic ET moments! LOL
     
    #267     Jul 10, 2008
  8. You mean morning masturbation session?

    By the way, your opponents posted their blotters. Where's yours?

    Oh yes, you'd have to take the time to Photoshop out the fact that it's a papertrading account?

    :)

    OWNED AND BONED!!!

    lol.... it's so easy to send you into a tailspin, posting every time someone else posts, scared out of your mind to not have the last word.
     
    #268     Jul 10, 2008

  9. Just look at the pink zigzags.

    The snagit is not mine nor from my screens.

    I was just illustrating how the ES offers to traders a multiple of the daily range. This is what I think is the first step in determining how to set up a business plan and a trading plan.

    As we saw recently in Future Magazine, David Boucher uses an ATS called Zig Zag David 1 and his reults relative to the ATR are over 10x on every day during the period of that article's examination.

    The difference between what is there in the market and what a trader takes is defined by the trader's relationship to the market and how he does his trading.

    It may be difficult to discuss this type of information if what the market offers is not understood. Secondly, it may be difficult to discuss if both parties do not trade the same market and, thus, have some common experience.

    Trader666 is correct that he does not have any information that proves I can make 3x the daily range and make it every day.

    Several people (many actually) want the proof. Many have the proof. And there is little overlap between the two groups.

    It is a tradition in the financial industry for professionals to satisfy their clients with what clients require for proof regarding the DD of clients.

    I would think that Trader666 would like an ATS and its records for 3 years. This is a nice DD standard and probably would be quite satisfactory if, as an added stipulation, no induction were used to get the ATS and its subsequent records.

    My comments are just made to describe SCT and PVT and the algorithm. I also mention my skills and knowledge and experience.

    The combination of all these things, to anyone else, turn out to be claims. They are also caught up with the fact that what they construe as claims are unsubstantiated.

    I and these people are at choice. I believe it may be possible for me to give information to another person and that other person will then decise I have substantiated what the other person in the past, felt were unsubstantiated. My information could also be rejected by the other person.

    An alternative would be a third party evaluation. The third party could look things over and decide. One way would be by testing. Another way would be that I provide information for assessment.

    In any case, I think that for those who have been through this variety of ways, it has worked out as those people wished. So things do turn out as expected.

    Nowadays, there are three groups of people in the universe (Venn wise), they include: Those whose DD gave a positive result; those whose DD gave a negative result and those who do not care one way or the other in the slightest. I agree that there are still billions of people who do not fit in this unviverse since they have never heard of anything relate to it. This is a very small thing and really not worth much to the average normal person. And I am so extremely happy that the few who took the trip to do the work are passing it on to others.

    As they seem to see it as time passes, they get better and better and they can compare themselves fairly favorably to anyone that they meet and who is doing other things that those people cared to.

    The syllabus for SCT in 2007 had over 1,000,000 hits. This magic year long treatise of unlimited helpfulness was supreme. Spyder is THE man.

    We are all glad that you did not participate by your stellar choices. You correctly decided it would be a waste of your time by doing the DD that you did. By doing this in the way you did, you helped many many others to do the same. As it stands, polls of low quality do enable any casual person to see that 80% of the voters agree with you and only a mere 20% are getting rich by doing the work.

    To get really good at this, you must wear sneakers.
     
    #269     Jul 10, 2008
  10. This from a clown who has never, ever, ever posted a blotter.

    He's such a troll. :p

    ... and not only does he not post blotters, but he also deletes his calls when the market moves against them, and frankly,can't tell the difference between support established in an uptrend and resistance established in a downtrend ... the basics. :eek: :D :D :D

    P.S. Maybe Steve46 could find the kindness to give him some remedial lessons ... but knowing Trader-Troll28, he'd just take the information, use it to profit and spit in his face. :(
     
    #270     Jul 10, 2008