I got demo copy of TN Plat. and am trying to learn to use the stratagy builder. Nowhere can I find any information on using the development tools. Anyway I took their sample MA crossover stratagy and changed it as follows. 1. sell when one MA crosses below the other = Sell Limit 2. exit short profit target = Buy Stop 3. exit short stop loss = Buy Stop optomize= sell when MA crosses below the another Num Bars for Fast= 5 - 50 step 5 Num Bars for Slow = 10 - 50 step 5 Profit Target = 12.5 to 1250 step 12.5 Stop loss amount 12.5 to 125 step 12.5 JY 5 min bars from 6/4/06 - 6/22/06 (thats as long as it allows) commission/slippage RT = 7.00 ( I assume in $) 10 bars min required, longest trade 200 bars I always get 0 wins. I tried the same thing on Buys NO wins. Obviousley Im doing something wrong. I called them and they couldnt even tell me if I was inputting the corect data as to bars or $ or which goes where. Can sombody help me.? thanks