Trade Deficit

Discussion in 'Economics' started by ShoeshineBoy, Jan 17, 2007.

  1. This article does (imho) a nice job of debunking the whole idea that "the trade deficit is a malignant cancer" about to bring down the US economy.

    Let me know if you disagree for some reason...

    January 17, 2007
    Losing Sleep Over the Trade Deficit?
    By John Stossel

    I'm told to worry about the trade deficit.

    Commentators and populist politicians are wringing their hands. The trade deficit is a "malignant tumor in the intestines of the U.S. economy," says Pat Buchanan. Lou Dobbs is very upset that "We're borrowing about $3 billion a day just to pay for our imports"!

    Economists had taught me that the trade deficit is not a big deal. (The budget deficit may be a big one, but that's a different issue.) But with all the pundits and politicians alarmed, I began to wonder if I was out of touch.

    Then I thought about my local supermarket. I buy stuff from the Food Emporium every week. I spend thousands of dollars a year there. But the supermarket never buys anything from me. Not one thing.

    And yet that is no problem. It's better than no problem -- it's fantastic! Imagine if I could only buy from the store to the extent that it needed my services. I'd starve. That would be barter, and mankind dumped barter for the money economy eons ago precisely because it is so inconvenient.

    Trade statistics obscure reality. Individuals exchange only when each expects to benefit. If they didn't expect it, they wouldn't trade. That's true even if one party is American and the other Chinese. Trade is trade.

    If we don't care about trade balances at the individual level, why does it matter if in a given year Americans as a group buy more from the Chinese than they buy from us?

    It doesn't.

    In fact, it's a good thing. Foreigners trade cool products (and capital goods) for paper money. They can do only three things with our dollars: buy American goods and services, save them, or invest in the United States (including buying U.S. government debt).

    In other words, most of what foreigners don't spend here, they invest here. The trade deficit is mirrored by the capital-account surplus .

    Should we be concerned that foreigners see the U.S. economy as a good place to invest their money? I can't see why. I think we should see it as a wonderful thing: They trust America's future enough to invest in it. Investment creates new products and better jobs.

    Especially absurd is Dobbs's idea that the trade deficit means we are in debt to foreigners. Except for the T-bills foreigners buy, this just isn't true. As George Mason University economist Donald Boudreaux wrote in the December issue of The Freeman magazine, "If Mr. Sony uses the $2,000 he receives from selling computers to Americans to buy $2,000 worth of equity in Exxon, the U.S. current-account deficit rises by $2,000, but no real indebtedness is created. No American owes Mr. Sony anything. ... It just ain't so that the so-called trade deficit is debt!"

    Boudreaux adds, "If we applaud when citizens of Wisconsin save and invest in software firms in California or orange groves in Florida, why should we not be equally pleased when citizens of Shanghai save and invest in these same American firms?"

    Good point, especially when you consider that the only way to shrink the trade deficit is for the government to prohibit us from buying whatever we want.

    What the trade fearmongers don't say is that countries with trade surpluses often don't do very well. Japan had a trade surplus all during its long recession, which began in 1990 and is only now ending. By contrast, countries running trade deficits often experience economic booms. A Cato Institute study shows, "Contrary to prevailing assumptions, 'worsening' trade deficits are associated with faster GDP and manufacturing growth and more rapidly declining unemployment, while 'improving' trade deficits are associated with slower GDP and manufacturing growth and rising unemployment."

    Adam Smith was right when he wrote, "Nothing, however, can be more absurd than this whole doctrine of the balance of trade."

    Copyright 2007 Creators Syndicate
  2. "What the trade fearmongers don't say is that countries with trade surpluses often don't do very well. Japan had a trade surplus all during its long recession, which began in 1990 and is only now ending. By contrast, countries running trade deficits often experience economic booms."

    I think that its the other way around.

    Countries with economic booms generate trade deficits. The boom generates the trade and not the other way around.

    I lived on the east coast, next to the ocean for about 23 years and one night I heard Stossel talking about insuring coastal property. In my opinion, he didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground or he was an outright lier. I've never liked him after that episode.
  3. "That most insignificant object of modern policy, the balance of trade." Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations

    He died in 1790.

    Do you think that he would have accounted for over 200 years of change in the world.

    Milton Friedman would probably been a better source. Wonder why Stossel didn't use him or even John Kenneth Galbraith. Two really great modern day economists. Sounds fishy to me that he couldn't find a more recent reference to make his point.
  5. I think the world has had 200 years to see how right Smith is, but they still ignore him. Much of the world still believe in Marx and socialism, which has had 150 years to prove how wrong they are.
  6. clacy


    Very well said newbunch.

    It's amazing how many people base their economic ideas on their emotions, rather than using logic and the facts as history would have them.
  7. Daal


    The trade balance might not be very important for the long-term direction of the economy but its the most significant thing right now regarding the value of the dollar

  8. Thanks to Socialism and Marx you are not making $1 a day and live in a shack. Just because couple yahoos are doing great in your neck of the woods does not make capitalism a cure for all you seem to peddle.
  9. Daal


    Thats whas so irrational behind colectivism. Its like everybody show up at a basketball game and michael jordan shows up too. Then everybody starts to complain he is too good and has too much success and we need to pass a law or two to 'equalize the situation'.

    Nowhere is the poor richer than in the societies that let the 'greedy business man' work and try to outcompete each other. In the other hand the ones that try to control 'those selfish entrepreneurs bastards' by giving power to another set of selfish greedy bastards(read politicians) are the ones that are really miserable
  10. But what alternative do the Chinese really have? If they want to sell to us, they have to own American securities/assets. The only issue would be if they felt their securities/assets were illiliquid or greatly falling in value which, for the foreseeable future, is not an issue.
    #10     Jan 18, 2007