Tracking Trumpcare

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    They're MDs, what do they know about healthcare? Trump knows more than the doctors I bet.
     
    #61     Jul 7, 2017
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    Trump University College of Medicine
     
    #62     Jul 7, 2017
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  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    After reading the details of the Senate healthcare bill, I am starting to come to the conclusion that the Senate healthcare replacement bill is worse for America than Obamacare. It all comes down to trade-offs. The Senate healthcare bill would likely cause premiums to stop rising rapidly at 20%+ per year and revert to the pre-ACA range of 10% per year. However co-pays and other costs would go up under the Senate bill. Premiums for older individuals on "ACA" plans would rise. More uncovered people would cram hospital emergency rooms for care.

    This gets back to the bottom line. Obamacare is not financially sound. Obamacare-light proposed by the Senate is not sound either. If the citizens of the U.S. believe that universal healthcare is an appropriate public benefit then we need to adopt a single-payer plan. There are plenty of countries providing single-payer (public/private) coverage that can be used as examples. I am not going to say that single-payer does not have its drawbacks (long waits, etc.) but it certainly is more cost-effective than Obamacare. If the citizens of the U.S. do not support universal care than we should revert our system to what it was prior to Obamacare.
     
    #64     Jul 7, 2017
  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    That's nonsense


    "Still, the slow rate of growth was good news for premiums: The total average family plan cost increased by 43 percent from 2008 to 2016, but it went up more than double that rate — 97 percent — from 2000 to 2008."

    http://www.factcheck.org/2017/03/employer-premiums-and-the-aca/

    Trump admin says otherwise


    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...wn-data-says-obamacare-isnt-imploding.310981/
     
    #65     Jul 7, 2017
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You have already been handed your head on the subject of premium increases pre and post ACA in the past week. You can continue to believe your fantasy, or join the world or actual facts & data which show the average increase pre ACA was 10% and post ACA was over 20%.
     
    #66     Jul 7, 2017
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    By handed you mean you linked to far right paid stooges who wrote what they were paid for while you ignore NON PARTISAN analysis - the kind I linked to. I mean, if you are going to make the claim that premiums only rose 10% prior to ACA - that's the biggest lie of all.

    "average increase pre ACA was 10%"

    Yea right, what a laughable claim. Anybody with decent insurance would know that claim is pure baloney.
     
    #67     Jul 7, 2017
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Anyone who pays for their own insurance knows that your claims are nonsense.
     
    #68     Jul 7, 2017
  9. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Ok, let's have some people chime in and tell us how their premiums only rose 10% a year before ACA. This is going to be fun.
     
    #69     Jul 7, 2017
  10. dumpdapump

    dumpdapump

    Absolutely hilarious if reality was not such an embarrassing scandal.

     
    #70     Jul 7, 2017
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