Total lawlessness in Minnesota

Discussion in 'Politics' started by NY_HOOD, May 28, 2020.

  1. virtusa

    virtusa


    It looks like justice in Russia or North Korea. I would expect real justice in the US, but that is the problem.
    Probably George Floyd killed himself. The police is innocent... But your description of escalation, lethal force and so on are clearly not the case for George Floyd. Justice is a deadly joke.

    The 99% are the reason for the riots. A lot of well know people (sportsmen, actors, musicians...) in the US want the killings to stop. So they don't believe the 99% innocence.
    The Ku Klux Clan will surely agree with 99% innocent.
     
    #61     Jun 1, 2020
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  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    No,they just take the cops word for it.If there was no video the cop who killed George Floyd would be on patrol today,same with the cop who killed Walter Scott.Even with video cops are walking free like Eric Garners and Timir Rices killers.Even when the facts are conclusive like cops wrongfully storming Brianna Taylors apartment killing her all of the cops are free.
     
    #62     Jun 1, 2020
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  3. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    That’s why I say, imagine pre smart phone. Oh boy.
     
    #63     Jun 1, 2020
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #64     Jun 1, 2020
  5. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    The problem we have is this. A store gets robbed masked men blue jacket. Cops get called one side of street white man blue jacket other side of street black man blue jacket. Who gets stopped/ questioned first and has higher risk incarceration?

    Then the flip sid. You and your girl walking down dark street. Four black men on one side 4 white men on other side. Which side of street would you be less at risk of being mugged lol. ?

    It’s a mix of racism and/or biased.
     
    #65     Jun 1, 2020
  6. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    You would be at less risk of being mugged on the side with four black men because four black men would know that a white guy with his girl on a dark street is strapped.
     
    #66     Jun 1, 2020
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    All police shootings in the U.S. include the officers being placed on leave while the shooting is investigated typically by a local review board or the state bureau of investigation.

    Justice worked in the George Floyd situation so far. The officers were immediately fired, and one of them was charged with murder so far -- and the others are likely to be charged shortly.
     
    #67     Jun 1, 2020

  8. GWB you cannot say 99% were found to be legitimate.... many of them the DA or police department refused to follow through with charges or simply took the police side because the other side is dead.

    Look up Freddie Gray or Sandra Bland... what about the guy who was shot in the back running away and the cop was going to lie and plant a weapon...BUT...someone video taped it. Only reason charges were brought.

    Most cases it is cop word versus a dead guy and cop wins. Why are body armour cameras conveniently left off.

    Dont believe because 99% of the cases a cop was not charged that 99% of the time the system was fair and the cops went through full due process and were found innocent.

    There are too many cases to google and show you where the cop got in trouble ONLY because there was videotape and many instances were no cops were charged because there were no witnesses (Bland, Gray).

    We are not talking only about cases where a guy pulls a gun and gets shot or attacks an officer and such. There are more than enough of unarmed and or compliant Black men who were shot by an itchy trigger finger (Castile). No one complains when a criminal is shot by a cop in self defense, but when a misdeamonr results in getting shot, we have a problem.

    Look at this white guy who is armed resisting arrrest not get hit, tasered, or shot at all


    WHat about this:
    White guy punches a cop and assaults 7 others and is taken into custody. Really?
    https://qz.com/477383/one-year-afte...n-assaults-7-cops-and-lives-to-tell-the-tale/

    Don't believe that just because there are some criminals getting shot by police that all of these are clean cases. a white guy can punch an officer in the face and no one pulls a gun to take him down?

    A Black woman tells a cop she can smoke in her car if she wants to and ends up dead?
     
    #68     Jun 1, 2020
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  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao


    If you accept that there are cases where police are crooked and either plant or tamper with evidence, or rig the way the evidence is presented (and why would you not accept this as we have seen it happen) then you have to assume there is some "error rate" in the prosecution and/or review of these cops post action reports. This is just a logical conclusion. Therefore, the reported numbers of when a copy is found innocent or "in the right" must be overstated. Said another way, the actions of the police officer in some cases where the officer was cleared were incorrect for some reason (tampered evidence, etc).

    But to post a graphic and claim that all these cases where a black man was killed by a police officer were all cases of corruption is completely and totally ridiculous. It is this type of hyperbole causing problems.

    If you took all the cases where an officer was cleared of wrong doing and put them on the right and all the cases where people claim the suspect was "murdered" and put them on the left, the truth is likely very close to the right (but admittedly not on the right).
     
    #69     Jun 1, 2020
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    There are videos where a black man isn't getting hit, tasered or shot at. The situations are not comparable. Every situation is unique and comes with its own set of circumstances. Trying to equalize them with 57 seconds of video is a futile act.
     
    #70     Jun 1, 2020