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I agree. Unfortunately for you, a little voice in my head whom I like to call Captain Obvious says it cuts both ways, the rule is valid for TST too.

MES is a rather new firm, but TST is almost 6 years old. So where are the customers' boats? Where are the traders who have been with them for years, instead of months? I am not saying there aren't any, but sure would be nice to hear about them, instead of the X number of newly funded traders with 1-2 contracts to trade. Nothing overly specific but something like:

"Jim has been with TST for 17 months, took 12 paychecks and can trade up to 20 contracts. We have 5 guys like Jim."

Of course if you only have a few guys who are willing to stick with you for more than 1 year, you are probably wise not to advertise that...

 

I seem to have stirred up an itsy bitsy hornets nest. Debating a controversial subjects never hurt anyone.
The proof for or against MES will be revealed IF I get a trial with them & IF I get to be a funded trader with them. This will take a month or three so patience is required. IF I get a trial with them I will keep y'all informed as to my progress (or otherwise) Meanwhile, in my book it's "innocent until proven guilty"
I may be new here, but I am certainly not new to trading, trade management, mentoring etc etc.

 

There probably aren't.

As ever, you've totally missed the point on this subject: TST only offer a one-year deal. Why would anyone stay with them for longer than that, giving up 20% of their profits, if they're trading regularly and earning decent money? It's an offer for people with trading skills and without capital. What's hard for you to understand about this?

By the time "the customers had yachts", they wouldn't need TST any more, would they?

But if you want the evidence of where those one-year customers are, the answer is at futures.io, on Youtube, on TST's videos, on their blog and on their "squawk radio". I've told you this about ten times before, but you just keep on asking your same totally-missing-the-point question every time, as if trying to pretend that it hasn't already been answered.

I know that you're not a stupid guy, Pekelo, but you really do seem absolutely determined to miss the point over this issue, no matter how many people explain it to you, and no matter how clearly and repeatedly. Still, that's one definition of "prejudice", I suppose ...

 

The "proof" won't be revealed: what will be revealed will be one instance of anecdotal evidence.

However, since at the moment we don't have even that, it will certainly still be interesting.

Of course.

And I wish you nothing but well with them, and look forward to seeing how it goes.

Well, that's a very good general principle. Please excuse my mentioning, though, that in this instance the owner's repeated dishonesty and deception HAS actually been proven.

 

Hey Xela. That's the 2nd time you have used "futures.io as a reference. If MES have an alleged record for dishonesty, going by what I have read they are minnows in that league compared to Big Mike & his futures.io which you have to pay a $100 annual subsrciption to view any threads of interest.???

 

Because that's where TST happen to maintain their "TST answer questions" thread, and engage with people, provide feedback and so on (and that isn't an "elite" thread for paying members: I know it's open to the public, because I can read it, myself), and their videos/webinars.

I suspect they intended to do some of that here, and indeed they continue to sponsor this forum, but I wouldn't be surprised if all the prejudice, distortion and negativity here have put them off.

I think I'd feel like that, in their position, with so much misprepresentation of the reality, here.

There are even a few people here who imagine (or claim to) that "the Combine criteria are designed for people to fail", so obviously their grasp of TST's business model is somewhat limited, not to put too fine a point on it!

 

I guess TST is not too worried about any negative people on this forum, otherwise they would have the same "Ask me anything thread" here. something I would welcome.

 

Sorry, but the logic goes the other way. They are worried, thus they don't have an AMA. (Unlike on BMT where the owner protects them from too much criticism) I agree, we would welcome a Q&A season, but the last time they had it, we just got pre-warmed PR answers.

What you might have wanted to say was: I guess they are not worried about negative publicity, because they are STILL a vendor here on ET, after all these years of criticism. They are probably like ZaZa Gabor, any publicity is good, specially if it brings in more combiners. I am sure they did the math and being a vendor here pays off for them...

 

As you can see from the fifth post on page 1 of this thread, that was clearly Michael Patak's intention for the thread, a long time ago. However, we can also see that they've more or less abandoned it (their post the other day was their very first one here, since I've been a member!), and my suggestion of "why" is above. The thread - as we can all see - has become not far off a "troll-fest" at times.

 

Lol xela spot on. Its clear to all why TST don't reply to this thread. The logic cluster fail is saying they are worried wtf? Lol. The market literally sends many insane as accounts are busted and egos crushed. GL