TopstepTrader Q & A

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by Topstep, Jan 4, 2017.

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  1. snowman80

    snowman80

    majority of people in the group you are referencing are inexperienced, eager and desperate to trade. So desperate and innocent, in fact, they are willing to fork over hundreds if not thousands of dollars out of the capital they so desperately need to participate in these combines or gauntlets.

    Sure, some will go through the process successfully and end up with their mugshot in the testimonial section.

    Same can be said of the Payday loan businesses. Some people have taken these loans when they were desperate and lived happily ever after. but majority are trapped in an endless debt trap.
     
    #161     Mar 15, 2018
  2. Xela

    Xela


    I'm sure that's right.

    There are large numbers of people taking Combines who don't have the required trading skills, and they ignore the suggestion above that they shouldn't pay for one until they've proved to themselves, on a free demo, that they can actually pass it. (I just think it's a pretty clear indication of prejudice speaking, rather than reason, when people try to blame TST for that!)
     
    #162     Mar 15, 2018
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  3. Shaking my head. I guess I'm just different or something.

    This is very funny to me. I honestly can't believe someone thinks TST is a rip off. I was there for 5 months, paid them monthly and traded. I didn't pass the combine cause what I was doing wasn't working.

    Am I missing something? Why in the world would someone trade their own money when TST will let you risk their? Now if I have $100k sitting in the bank idle and all my debt paid off, yeah sure, I risk about $20k trading a verified profitable strategy. But guess what? I dont have $100k sitting around. I wish I knew about TST 4 years ago when I was losing my own capital.

    I don't even care about TST business model or know what it is or what other funded traders are doing. I just want to meet the profit target and get to the next stage and follow the rules.
     
    #163     Mar 15, 2018
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  4. snowman80

    snowman80


    it’s not really ‘their’ money that they are risking. it’s your money that you’ve paid to participate in the gauntlet.

    money they collect up front from you(i mean collective ‘you’) offsets any potential losses.

    i don’t disagree with Xela’s point of view that one should only pay to play if he/she ‘is’ ready but i’m pretty sure most ppl in their target demographic simply do not have the discipline to follow that advice.
     
    #164     Mar 15, 2018
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  5. Xela

    Xela


    Not so much, for some people.

    One of the people I mentioned (on a previous page) paid for one Combine, once, and was then funded to trade an account with a $3,000 daily loss limit. That wasn't her $3,000 per day that was being risked, of course. She didn't have that kind of money, which is of course why she was taking a Combine in the first place. So the comment that "TST is risking nothing" (not your comment, I appreciate, Snowman80, but wrongly claimed by some, here!) is obviously nonsense.

    Of course, there are also others who pay again and again for Combines and fail them again and again. Fortunately for TST, who have to rent premises, pay staff salaries, and so on.

    How else could it work? [​IMG]

    Speaking for myself, if I were taking a Combine, I'd want TST itself to be a viable, profitable business, otherwise I'd worry about my funded account later on, but some people here seem to begrudge TST having a viable business! :rolleyes:



    I'm sure you're right. And that TST probably wouldn't/couldn't exist at all, if that weren't so.

    They make some of their income selling Combines to people who never benefit. Clearly. ("Shock horror"!! [​IMG] ).

    It is what it is.

    Nobody forces people to take part, if they can't do it. But if they can, the rewards can be huge: successful careers have been started off this way, without any trading capital at all.
     
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    #165     Mar 15, 2018
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  6. lcranston

    lcranston

    The chief refuge of the loser lies in finding someone else -- anyone else -- to blame for his own failures.
     
    #166     Mar 15, 2018
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  7. snowman80

    snowman80

    I’m not sure it could.

    Countless lambs have to be sacrificed to pay rent, salaries and launch few successful careers.

    i guess i’m ok with that. i have to take a quick shower - saying that makes me feel a little dirty. :cool:
     
    #167     Mar 15, 2018
  8. snowman80,

    It's not my business to know who money it is, I am just there to trade, meet the profit target, follow the rules, get to funded stage and get paid. Nice and simple. Not my job to worry about where TST money comes from.
     
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    #168     Mar 15, 2018
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  9. volente_00

    volente_00

    Perhaps those people could save up enough capital to daytrade the emini's if they weren't pissing away $200 monthly on a dangling carrot
     
    #169     Mar 15, 2018
  10. sss12

    sss12

    It is called capitalism. You realize you are in a trading forum, right ?
     
    #170     Mar 15, 2018
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