Top Gun (original) is still top ...

Discussion in 'Music, Movies and TV' started by kandlekid, Sep 1, 2022.

Is Top Gun (the original) or Maverick a better movie

  1. Top Gun (Original)

    2 vote(s)
    40.0%
  2. Top Gun: Maverick

    3 vote(s)
    60.0%
  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Let's find out:

    The black bird can fly at the altitude of 26 km high or 85000 feet. (record) According to this calculator:

    https://www.mide.com/air-pressure-at-altitude-calculator

    At 20 km high (max. for the calc), the air pressure is only 5500 PA compared to 100K PA at sea level. So air density is 1/20th of the sea level's density and he could have been much higher, so let's say 1/30th. but we haven't even counted for air temperature, what also helps to lower air density...

    "Density is directly proportional to pressure and indirectly proportional to temperature. As pressure increases, with temperature constant, density increases. Conversely when temperature increases, with pressure constant, density decreases."

    Would it hurt? Sure. Would he have died? Maybe not. The point is that NGT made a very silly, non-scientific argument.

    Edit: in the calculator I adjusted for air temperature using -40C and it halved the air density. So 20km up with -40C the air density is only 1/50th of the sea level's.

    I would say, jump away Tom!!!
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2022
    #11     Oct 11, 2022
  2. I haven't seen the movie yet. I'm sure it's good and I have no doubt I will enjoy it. But I'm gonna side with the science guy.
     
    #12     Oct 11, 2022
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    NGT is famous for talking BS...

    How about this?:

    20km up with -40C the air density is only 1/50th of the sea level's.

    It is practically space...
     
    #13     Oct 11, 2022
  4. tango29

    tango29

    Maybe not died, but probably broken a bit. I have noticed NGT seems to like to be heard and have to a certain extent discounted his commentaries over the years. I think he likes to get his voice heard without complete analysis of the presented situation. Kind of like most everyone who becomes a social media addict. I am not saying he isn't many levels smarter than me, as I am guessing you are too, but I think he has gotten to be a social media junkie.
     
    #14     Oct 11, 2022
  5. I'm still guessing he knows more than you and I do on matters related to physics.
     
    #15     Oct 11, 2022
  6. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    The word is narcissist...
     
    #16     Oct 11, 2022
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  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Not adjusting for altitude is an UNFORGIVEABLE mistake in this scenario. Also Tom likes to make his movies realistic.

    This guy ejected at Mach 3:

     
    #17     Oct 11, 2022
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  8. tango29

    tango29

    Yes he does, which in some of his movies it is a miracle he isn't dead.
     
    #18     Oct 11, 2022
  9. Then let's see if he gets any official pushback on his criticism. If he's wrong, I have no doubt some credentialed folk will chime in.
     
    #19     Oct 11, 2022
  10. tango29

    tango29

    Density altitude is a big one in aviation. Many a fool has been killed by not calculating the density altitude of where they fly in and out of.
     
    #20     Oct 11, 2022