Tomorrow FOMC meeting

Discussion in 'Trading' started by madmaxer, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. Yeah, core. But inflation expectations are not only becoming unhinged, they're evaporating into the stratosphere.
     
    #11     Jun 24, 2008
  2. I was being sarcastic :D
     
    #12     Jun 24, 2008
  3. What do you want from a President that only knows how to call one "running" play after another for the last 7 years?

    1st down and 10
    Run the Ball.

    2nd and 15
    Run the Ball

    3rd and 25
    Run the Ball

    Punt, Rinse, Repeat.
    Continue for 7 seasons.
    :(
     
    #13     Jun 24, 2008
  4. I know, but felt compelled to comment anyway. :p
     
    #14     Jun 24, 2008
  5. Mvic

    Mvic

    #15     Jun 24, 2008
  6. PaulRon

    PaulRon

    I think we've seen a bottom in the s&p at 1306 for a while
     
    #16     Jun 24, 2008
  7. I for one am very suspicious about a rate hike of 25 tomorrow. The action in some of the commodities has been very different over the last several sessions, I have seen quiet liquidation going on especially in natty. Also note the lack of VIX getting bid up although we have been selling off. TSO calls for July ATM's today went nuts.

    Maybe paranoid thinking but these trades are indicative of a shock and awe rate hike that would crush commodity complex and run the dollar (initially anyway). Call it an initial stab at inflation and an experiment on Bernanke part to test the waters.

    Bottom line is cheap money will not spur growth in this particular environment, but cooling off of inflation will considerably help the consumer. IF this were to transpire tomorrow, I would expect a knee-jerk reaction sell-off of equities, followed by a very strong rally (either at the end of the session or on Thursday).
     
    #17     Jun 24, 2008
  8. Mvic

    Mvic

    Gutsy call given how close we still are to that level (not surprising given your equally gutsy namesake).

    You may be right but I think that the credit situation is worsening and despite the bounce in the financials today their pain is spreading. Look at the PRU deal getting done at 9%, the "rock" at 9% is a pretty good indicator of how tough times are and how the contagion is still spreading (looking for sub $60 on PRU).

    Oil looks set to hit $144 and rates look like they are going to rise some more, I don't see how stocks can maintain these levels for much longer. Earnings still need to be taken down substantially. High vol of resets going to happen in the next few months and gas prices are likely to increase too. This is going to be one tough summer.
     
    #18     Jun 24, 2008
  9. Yet another member attemping to call a bottom. Everyone before you has gone down in a flaming pile of crap.

    Good luck

    BTW, rate is staying at 2% tomorrow. It is all in the language to determine where the market will be headed this week.
     
    #19     Jun 24, 2008
  10. My 2c

    Zero chance of rate decrease.

    If FOMC do not raise or at least be very hawkish the USD will drop and US denominated commodities [oil gold] all will go up. The other central bankers IMF etc are all united in the fight against inflation.

    If the fed does raise or is extremely hawkish the markets will drop and gold will go up [some of the recent strength in gold is probably due to this].

    Most of this will be priced in already. My pick is no rate change with very hawkish commentary. Markets will jump around and probably settle close to where we are.

    Biggest chance for surprise would be a rate cut.

    Cheers
     
    #20     Jun 24, 2008