Today's gun crime thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    NOT the way you mean, no.
    I'm a big believer in criminal control. Mostly by way of mass extermination.

    Your so called "plan" is arbitrary, hopelessly naive and unconstitutional. We don't don't have a gun problem, we have a repeat offender/violent criminal problem. Not unlike our deficit issue. We don't have have a revenue problem we have a congressional spending problem.
     
    #61     Aug 30, 2012
  2. BSAM

    BSAM

    I'm going to throw this out there for anyone to respond to:

    For what purpose is a handgun manufactured?
     
    #62     Aug 30, 2012
  3. BSAM

    BSAM

    I agree.
    My plan is unconstitutional.
    It's also unconstitutional to tell someone they can't possess a shoulder fired missile launcher.
    This is why we need to change the parameters via the Constitution as to what is allowed and is not allowed.
    These issues were not even imagined when the document was drawn up.
     
    #63     Aug 30, 2012
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Besides profit?

    casual target practice "plinking"
    competition target shooting
    self/home defense
    hunting
    easier to tote around than a long gun
    easier to conceal than a long gun
    collectors
    military and civilian police departments
     
    #64     Aug 30, 2012
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Our country is divided by irreconcilable differences. In fact we're probably as divided now as we were in the early 1860's. The incompetent assholes in Washington can't even pass a budget let alone a balanced one. You really think a constitutional amendment,with nothing of substance but arbitrary limits at that, is a realistic option?

    Not to even mention that laws are nothing but ink on paper. The criminals are ALREADY ignoring the 22,000 gun laws we have now. More Arbitrary limits will affect absolutely NO ONE but the responsible law abiding citizens which aren't even causing a problem to begin with. You think the career criminals are going to limit themselves to how many firearms they own? If you really think so why not add a constitutional amendment limiting the number of murders someone can commit? That'll shut down the gang bangers and mass murderers, won't it?
     
    #65     Aug 30, 2012
  6. BSAM

    BSAM

    Brother Lukie, good laws bring about good results to some extent.
    I wonder how many lives those 22,000 gun laws you keep railing about have saved.
    You think it might be 1 or 3 or so?
     
    #66     Aug 30, 2012
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Very few, if any is more like it. People like me and you follow laws. Murderers do not.
     
    #67     Aug 30, 2012
  8. I'm always amazed that these guys can't spot the disconnect. I figure they are just lost idealists; they really can't fathom that the criminal underclass operates with impunity.
     
    #68     Aug 30, 2012
  9. Short barrels, short stocks, large magazines, semi or full auto with those,.... vented? barrels, heat shields, silencers....
     
    #69     Aug 30, 2012
  10. dcvtss

    dcvtss

    Really? Couldn't imagine what? Military grade weapons?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadier#Origins
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortar_(weapon)#History

    Handguns?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol#History

    A violent society? There is a pretty good case it has always been that way and it's not necessarily because of the guns.
    Why is American history so murderous?

    Are things really so different? Has human nature changed?
     
    #70     Aug 30, 2012