to the atheists on the board

Discussion in 'Politics' started by kungfoofighting, Jan 27, 2004.

  1. Neo-Darwinsim "requires" basically two driving forces:

    1. Natural selection - survival of the fittest.
    2. Genetic selection through mutuations.

    The curious thing is that one would expect #2 to be the least controversial. After all, genetics is on the surface one the least subjective categories within the biological sciences. But in reality the controversy is exactly in the area.

    Many biologist doubt or want to substantially modify #2. Now don't get me wrong - I'm not saying they don't believe in evolution.

    But my point is that traditional Darwinism is hurting and hurting badly. It is struggling to explain many of the most basic of the latest genetic discoveries....
     
    #221     Feb 2, 2004
  2. Here's another one: geneticists, much to their dismay I am sure, found that Neanderthal and modern man do not share a common ancestor in recent history. Their genetics diverge. Again, Neo-Darwinists are left scratching their heads...
     
    #222     Feb 2, 2004
  3. This was done, by the way, through a study of mitochondrial DNA.
     
    #223     Feb 2, 2004
  4. Please. What's hurting is the idea that a super being that has not left one shred of physical evidence is believed to have created the universe in six days. (Before the concept of "day" was created, btw. A very neat trick.) Saying Darwinism/Evolution Theory is somehow hurting because the nuances of genetics are not understood perfectly is like saying General Relativity is invalid because the gauge boson for gravity has not been detected. It's nonsense. The theory still perfectly well describes the universe as we see it. Any other interpretation without emprical evidence is irrational.
     
    #224     Feb 2, 2004
  5. Tell us what would constitute the "shred" of evidence you are talking about.

     
    #225     Feb 2, 2004
  6. I didn't mean hurting in the sense of biologists are flocking to leave evolution - that's clearly NOT the case! But traditional Neo-Darwinism fueled by genetics is hurting for explanations.
     
    #226     Feb 2, 2004
  7. Notice that instead of supporting the ID hypothesis,
    the theists simply CONTINUE TO ATTACK SCIENCE AND EVOLUTION.

    They only make it more and more painfully clear that they
    have NO CASE for their ID position.

    Its glaringly obvious.


    We still await for ANY evidence for the ID hypothesis.
    For the 1000th time, ***attacks on evolution DO NOT constitute
    evidence for ID! ****

    peace

    axeman
     
    #227     Feb 2, 2004
  8. This is semantics. Life is "designed" by any human definition: life is clearly self-ordering and self-organizing by almost any reasonable definition

    Again, the question is therefore: was there intelligence and/or intervention behind this "design"?
     
    #228     Feb 2, 2004
  9. Fine.... lets call it ALL designed. Just semantics.
    Evolution is then a theory of "natural design".

    But this doesnt change anything.
    Again the question remains...

    WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE for ID????



    peace

    axeman




     
    #229     Feb 2, 2004
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