to the atheists on the board

Discussion in 'Politics' started by kungfoofighting, Jan 27, 2004.

  1. 1)
    You spoke of afterlife, just as someone sneezes without uttering "Atchoo!"

    2)
    re: Osama, Islamic destruction, 9/11. Insidious insinuation.

    3) You are insinuating evolution is a hoax with an absurd hypothetical. Tricks are getting plainly cheap here.

    4) Why would people have no trouble......Why do you think? If one can show houses can self build, so be it. And how many hits of microdot did you take?
     
    #111     Jan 29, 2004
  2. Actually, Axe, I agree with you on one front. If you throw out the supernatural, then of course I can see your viewpoint. Your world view does not allow for antyhing ouside these four dimensions, so, yes, if we make that assumption then I can see why you say what you do.

    I guess we're at a stalemate. You think I believe in fables. I think you believe in science fiction...
     
    #112     Jan 29, 2004
  3. As technologically advanced as we are, I am curious why the difficulty of making organic chains "create themselves", doesn't make people question: "Is it really possible that this is how it all came to be"? All the brilliant minds in the world can't begin to grasp how those "primitive" membranes organized and came to possess life, but this supposedly occurred without the aid of any "scientist".

    Evolutionists have anthropomorphized evolution itself. The say that the drive to survive is so strong that intelligence would ultimately appear. Does non-intelligent life will itself some brains? Does evolution know that having arms and legs makes it easier to get around than twirling flagellae? If it is just the nature of survival, why do evolutionists believe that multicellular organisms came from more simple ones. With the theory of evolution just being change, I would think that uni-cellular organisms could evolve from animals too. An elephant which has a long gestation period may not be very well equipped to survive and might not be considered to have as strong a will to live as a mold. Did mold evolve from mammals?
     
    #113     Jan 29, 2004
  4. "Your world view does not allow for antyhing ouside these four dimensions,"

    False. Actually... I am open to the supernatural.
    However... the supernatural has never been proven to exist.

    So until you prove the supernatural is a valid domain to even
    consider, I can only consider it mythology.


    But even if we accepted YOUR world view, you are STILL
    being very inconsistent.

    I can easily claim that its easier to swallow the existence
    of a 500 degree climate supernatural being, over an all powerful
    ANY climate god :D


    But lets get back to earth here.... supernatural claims
    have never been proven. What I believe is not science fiction,
    since there is nothing fictitious about it. Name ONE belief
    I hold which I cannot back up with a lot of hard evidence.


    peace

    axeman



     
    #114     Jan 29, 2004
  5. The say that the drive to survive is so strong that intelligence would ultimately appear.

    Care to cite some evolutionists for us?

    I say a lot of things which clearly show your complete
    ignorance of evolution.


    peace

    axeman



     
    #115     Jan 29, 2004
  6. I've never had issues with your logic.

    The only thing I disagree with is, of course, your definition of "hard evidence".

    I feel that you strike too much from the "courtroom" as inadmissible.

    But I love science and I appreciate your devotion to the scientific method. I just feel that a trial (as opposed to laboratory) evaluation is more appropriate for evaluating the spiritual/supernatural.
     
    #116     Jan 29, 2004
  7. Notice that OJ got off in a trial :D


    peace

    axeman



     
    #117     Jan 29, 2004
  8. There are a number of biologists, Monod comes to mind, that were willing to admit the seeming teleological "nature" that seemed to be in cellular life, especially embryos. But they were definitely evolutionists.
     
    #118     Jan 29, 2004
  9. Doh!

    Okay, I admit it's important not to have a boneheaded jury!
     
    #119     Jan 29, 2004
  10. Turok

    Turok

    >I think you're still missing my point overall. You're
    >not going to get advanced life in a 500 degree
    >environment.

    I guess I have no clue as to why you would make that statement(Ok, yes I do)

    If we lived here in a 500 degree environment you would be saying "that is what I would expect from a creator" and would quickly follow that with "You're not going to get advanced life in a 75 degree environment".

    Can't you see that if you are right and we are here as the result of an all powerful creator that you are now arguing against his ability to create life in any environment he darn well pleases?

    JB
     
    #120     Jan 29, 2004