I agree, you need to lose a lot of money in the markets before you make a lot of money. No way around it, experience is the best teacher. Every system must evolve into one that fits the specific person. The choices are so infinate in the markets. As are all the indicators. You find one that works and stick to it. I like one minute charts, another might think 5 minutes are fast enough. Some people prefer the pace of the dailies. Some people love to hunt through charts looking for that perfect stock to trade at the moment. I spent every waking hour for 2 years in fundemental analysis and decided I did not enjoy it.