To Mahram: An Honest Discussion about America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by oddiduro, Jun 27, 2006.

  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Oh, the Book of Facts? That was obviously a joke, (Hello? No book would list such a thing, since there is no clear definition for most benevolent country. But we can assume a country almost eliminating humankind wouldn't make the top 10...)

    But if you really care to google the expression "book of facts" you get these:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0141018577/026-4409475-6374004

    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0886879108/002-7904454-2990416?v=glance&n=283155

    http://www.worldalmanac.com/

    One of my fav writer, Asimov:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0517065037/002-7904454-2990416?v=glance&n=283155

    etc.etc.etc.

    Any of these books and websites are a good starting point for ignorant people to get educated on history/science. Enjoy!!!!
     
    #11     Jun 27, 2006
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    #12     Jun 28, 2006
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    The weather. They liked the weather here much better than in Europe...
     
    #13     Jun 28, 2006
  4. 50% of americans still belieave in the war. Whether there was a good reason or not. Whether or not there was wmd's.

    My problem is that americans keep pushing the 911 crap. 3000 people died in 911. How many innocent people died during the invasion of iraq. Not including soldiers, thousands. Even the us military admits that. and that was just the beginning of the war. How many people died after? 50K-150K according to http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx . But bush saids around 40K. 8K during the bombing of iraq.

    About 3 times as many people died during just the bombings, this is according to bush, then during 911.

    And what for? Are americans going to cry over 8000 dead iraqis.

    Thats my problem with the states. The hypocrisy. They keep saying 911 911, we suffered. How about the 10's of thousands who died because of the invasion.

    and then you have the americans who refuse to pay up for the war. If america broke it. americans should give whatever is necessary to fix iraq. If it costs 1 trillion a year, so be it. If it causes hardship on the american economy so be it. If it takes a draft, so be it.

    But dont do stuff half ass. Thats my problem with the us. So much hypocrisy, and the unwillingness to sacrifice to give to the iraqis.

    Do you think americans are willing to start a draft and give trillions a year to iraq. And do it for decades. hell no.

     
    #14     Jun 28, 2006
  5. why are americans flocking to china and india. Why are the us government bending their backs to democracy for china. B/c of money. Thats why people immigrant.


     
    #15     Jun 28, 2006
  6. Pekelo, are you serious??

    Get a map and compare longitude of European and American cities.

    You can do better than that.
     
    #16     Jun 28, 2006
  7. Indeed, money and benevolence go hand in hand, do they not?
     
    #17     Jun 28, 2006
  8. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    No. One has to understand irony. I didn't give you a serious answer because you didn't have a serious argument.Those scientists came because they wanted to survive WW2 and the Holocaust. Sure America was a better place, but how many of them would have come without the war??

    But let's go back to your most benevolent for immigrants argument:

    If by immigrant you meant those few millions dark skinned "guestworkers" who came between 1600-1860, than yes, they probably came for finding a better life and for the pursuit of happiness, and they were probably right, because it was much better to pick cotton in 110 degrees than dying of malaria back in black Congo....

    And yes, I am being sarcastic....
     
    #18     Jun 28, 2006
  9. Pabst

    Pabst

    Of course the ultimate irony is that being a slave in the New World was better than staying in Africa......
     
    #19     Jun 28, 2006