To get rich trading you MUST manage other people money?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by crgarcia, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. IF your method is profitable AND scalable, you can also consider selling your signals to others

    Sites like timertrac, theta research, collective2, and others are a way to market signal. Putting yourself on all is better.

    Or start your own website and do some google or other advertising.

    Heckuva lot easier than trying to figure out how to manage other's money.
     
    #11     Aug 24, 2008
  2. achilles28

    achilles28

    I hear ya.
     
    #12     Aug 24, 2008
  3. A few points.

    1. Yea Candle trading size decreases efficiency. However two flip sides. A big money manager can bull up/squeeze his positions. re: Peter Lynch.

    2. No trading desk will call any of us asking if we're interested in taking on a block of XYZ 80 cents below the thin bid.

    3. FOREX volume is a misnomer. It's a dealer market. Hence the size one can move is subject to the volume/price demands of your specific counter party. Big traders call multiple banks. Those banks know that it's not only them but several others who're being lifted by Caxton (Kovner) at that moment. Obviously they adjust their bid/offer accordingly.

    For an analogy: Just because a zillion is wagered on the Super Bowl doesn't mean your bookie will take a million dollar bet.
     
    #13     Aug 24, 2008
  4. achilles28

    achilles28

    Pabst,

    I've heard EBS regularly gets half-a-yard per side during London/New York.

    Could be rumor. But thats not unreasonable, given that currenex has 200-300 Mil during peak times.
     
    #14     Aug 24, 2008
  5. Thank's bro. That's a lot of size but keep in mind a big fund can be pretty leveraged to boot. Like everything else in trading-getting it on isn't so hard it's getting it off that so often sux. :cool:
     
    #15     Aug 24, 2008
  6. achilles28

    achilles28

    haha . True enough :)
     
    #16     Aug 24, 2008
  7. I respectfully disagree, though it depends on your definition of rich.

    Having spent the bulk of my career as a floor trader trading my own account, I only handled one account for a friend of mine, and didn't charge him any fees or percentages. While I might not be rich, I certainly am comfortable, and regularly trade a few million bushels at a whack.


    Rich, comfortable.....what does it matter as long as you make money in the long run.

    Jeff
     
    #17     Aug 24, 2008
  8. i agree with you, i have never traded opm and never will....not making millions but definitely living comfortably.
     
    #18     Aug 24, 2008
  9. Nien.
     
    #19     Aug 25, 2008
  10. The psychology is different if trading your own money or OPM from people you don't care much about. I was watching a movie about floor traders and a guy made the comment that the guys in the pits that were trading their own money were a lot smarter and tougher than the guys trading opm... that is the truth, before I try a system with my own money I am not only going to test it but i am going to test the software I use to test the system, with some clown's money I'm going to use far less intellectual rigor in the learning process, far, far less... I'm going to learn as I go really......
     
    #20     Aug 26, 2008