to conservatives -is Bush the worst ever?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. Pretty much on target.....

    The war in Iraq is certainly no stupider than America's involvement in WWll, Korea and Vietnam. Not as deadly or expensive either.

    I'm very much an isolationist so the Bush doctrine which is Democrat in nature (i.e. Wilson, FDR and LBJ) is the antithesis of how I view government. Liberals fail to grasp how big government domestically breeds international militaristic intervention. Think Blair.

    Hillary, Obama, Edwards and Dean are ALL on the record opposing Iran's development of nukes. Liberal Dem's and Bush are BOTH up Israel's ass.

    At the end of the day the economy is MUCH MORE important than Iraq. Ask China how many millions they'd sacrifice to live like we do. IOW's if someone asked would you exchange 4,000 combat deaths for Dow 7000, 14% bond yields and 11% unemployment the answer would be a resounding no.

    Since I'm an isolationist I don't give two fucks about "how the world views us." The same folks who allegedly hate us because of Iraq were sucking our dick when 500,000 Americans were dying in Europe. We should have sat that one out also.

    If Iraq had reached a speedy conclusion you'd be hearing Congressional Dem's who voted for war bragging about their support on the campaign trail. Alas random outcomes.....

     
    #41     Apr 25, 2007
  2. jem

    jem

    I suspect many of the decision were made with a profit motive as well. I do not think he considered the good of the country on many of the decisions.

    Miers
    Ports
    screwing CA on electricity
    no bids contracts to Hal
    cronies in high positions

    I do not think he appointed incompentent people by mistake. I think it was by design to give him and Cheney more control. I think his advisors (read Dad and his friends) mis calculated the down side to such a policy. Events spun out of control and they could not fix them with their band of merrymen.

    Even if GWB is a big dope - his father is not and his father is most likely running the show behind the scenes.
     
    #42     Apr 25, 2007
  3. SteveD

    SteveD

    When facts go against liberals they raise their screams to a very loud shrill.....LOL


    Hitler was quoted many times: Yell a lie loud enough, long enough and people will start to belive it.....


    You clowns offer nothing but demented, delusional opinions and try to pass them off as "truth".....

    Liberalism is dying a slow tortured death......and you can not understand why.....

    It is fun to watch from the conservative perspective....LOL


    Even David Obey called them "idiot liberals" and HE IS a liberal...LOL


    SteveD
     
    #43     Apr 25, 2007
  4. The irony is palpable.
     
    #44     Apr 25, 2007
  5. Where's the Yen? :)

    It was the strong dollar that sent America's manufacturing base hiking off shore.

    The only method to restore domestic consumption of homemade goods is a weaker greenback.

    Would you swap your appreciation in Tahoe for EUR parity? Asset values certainly reflect the dollar's decline.

    Since you and me are two of the only 11 people on this board who actually trade here's a Yen chart for the rest.
     
    #45     Apr 25, 2007
  6. fhl

    fhl

    FDR the worst ever, and by a country mile. He's the one that changed our method of gov't from we the people, to we the gov't.

    He instituted the notion that the "security" that the country owed it's citizens was not just physical security, but economic security, which paved the way to the socialist state.

    With only brief interludes, been downhill ever since.
     
    #46     Apr 25, 2007
  7. SteveD

    SteveD

    Thunderdog and Jen offer nothing but delusional opinions....

    Not even original opinions at that......LOL


    Profit motive....Miers.....CA Electricity....?????

    These are connected in what way???

    You would appoint people you don't know or like????

    HAL, through it's subsidiary, Brown&Root have been building military bases since WWII.....there is no one else that can do it, that I am aware of....


    I am sure it is Bush's fault your wife if screwing the neighbor....


    Again....facts, boys and girls.....facts.....but then, that requires one to actually think.....


    Funny how the Senate Dems, who saw the SAME intell reports can't ever seem to come up with the great LIE that Bush told...


    SteveD
     
    #47     Apr 25, 2007
  8. Are you kidding me? Well-meaning or not, your current president is a moron. If he underwent brain surgery, it would accurately be characterized as a boob job. That you seem to look up to him is quite instructive.
     
    #48     Apr 25, 2007
  9. SteveD

    SteveD

    Once again....A delusional opinion offered up as fact.....

    You really need to get some mental help.....having that amount of frustration pent up is not good for your mental well being...

    Just chill out and offer some basic facts in what you would have done different than Bush......not hindsight opinions....

    Not broad generalities you get from others.....but very specific examples of actions....

    Come on....you can do it....I know you can....


    SteveD
     
    #49     Apr 25, 2007
  10. Bush is a conservative? Fooled me....
     
    #50     Apr 25, 2007