To all ex Military Men/Woman on the board arent you afraid of being call up for duty

Discussion in 'Politics' started by mahram, Jun 11, 2006.

Is it fair to ask men and woman who left active duty to be called up for service aga

  1. yES

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  2. NO

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  1. LOL riserburn I thought you said they werent calling up older people, in the death toll their are 55 years olds, 40 year olds, 52 year olds, 44 year olds, and it goes on literally!!!!!!
    Riserburn, I knew somebody was going to say its a year old. Its only worse now riserburn.

    http://icasualties.org/oif/US_NAMES.aspx



     
    #11     Jun 12, 2006
  2. That doesn't mean that they were involuntary forced into duty against their will. There were plenty of people that stepped forward after 9/11, and there are still those that do, even over the age of 50.

    Individuals aren't pressed into duty, units are. Since the full-pension period for military service is 30 years, and a person signed up in their mid to late 20s, then the service of individuals into their 50s is not that uncommon. Like Dr. Zhivodka said, if you actually knew anything about the military, you would know this.

    The death list still doesn't do a thing to help you prove your assertion that old people are being forced into service. It only proves the existence of those individuals serving in units that were activated.

    Yes, that's correct. You're a much bigger dumbass than I originally gave you credit for.
     
    #12     Jun 12, 2006
  3. Oh no what about the stop loss order by rumsfeld. :D it is well known that the military has a recruitment problem and is relying on stop loss orders to keep officers. And yes alot of older people in the reserves and guard are being swept back into active duty.
    And this is a 30 year old guy. Its a volunteer army, but you signed up for a period of years, and when you serve them you should be able leave.


    http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/14792747.htm
    WASHINGTON | When Army Reserve Capt. Bradley E. Schwan sought to resign his commission last year, he thought that getting out of the Army would just be a matter of filing his paperwork.

    The 30-year-old West Point graduate had served six years on active duty and two years in the reserves. His eight-year service obligation was over. He was ready to move on to a law career.

    But the Army had other ideas. In July 2005, two months after he was eligible to leave the service, Army Reserve headquarters informed Schwan that his resignation request had been denied because the Army was short on officers.

    "I'd heard rumors and inklings that they were looking at resignations and deciding whether they'd let people go," said Schwan. "But I thought, well, that can't be right. This is an unqualified resignation. And sure enough, it was denied. I filed a second resignation, but it was denied, too."

    Stretched thin by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army is under pressure to keep qualified officers in its ranks.

    As the war in Iraq grows more unpopular, and with no end in sight in the war against al-Qaida, Schwan's case and others like it raise questions about the future of the all-volunteer Army and how well it can be sustained.

    "You know, if they're going to ask people to serve involuntarily, then this isn't something they should ask only a very small segment of society to do," Schwan said. "We're either an all-volunteer force or a conscription force. You can't really have it both ways."

    Schwan argues that by refusing to let him leave the service, the Army is resorting to what amounts to a "back-door" draft.

    Federal law requires service members to serve eight years in their initial term. This is usually done by a combination of time on active duty and in the reserves.

    Schwan, who lives in Simi Valley, Calif., filed a lawsuit to force the Army to let him go. It alleges breach of contract and fraud. The suit is pending in a Los Angeles federal court.

    "The Army Reserve is facing a critical shortage of officers and the retention of every soldier is important to our mission to safeguard the United States," said Col. Wanda L. Good, an Army personnel officer, in a letter last July.

    Lt. Gen. James R. Helmly, then the chief of the Army Reserve, informed commanders in policy memos in 2004 and 2005 that resignations would be decided case by case.

    The Army Reserve's authorized manpower strength is 205,000, but its actual strength is around 185,000, according to Pentagon statistics.

    Reserve officers can resign if their career fields are at least at 80 percent strength, or if they served in Iraq, Afghanistan or in a domestic security mission since the 2001 terror attacks, or if they had personal hardships, Helmly wrote.

     
    #13     Jun 12, 2006
  4. g222

    g222

    Bulletin ... Bulletin

    This just in ...


    The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new
    500-man elite fighting unit called the US REDNECK
    SPECIAL FORCES (USRSF), and "age ain't no barrier".

    These North Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia,
    Mississippi, Missouri, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia,
    Texas and Tennessee boys will be dropped into Iraq and
    have been given the following facts about Terrorists
    to be used on this important mission:

    1. The season opened today.
    2. There is no limit.
    3. They taste just like chicken.
    4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or
    Jesus.
    5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale
    Earnhardt.

    This mess in Iraq should be over IN A WEEK.
     
    #14     Jun 12, 2006