Title Trading

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by stealth927, Dec 12, 2006.

  1. GGSAE

    GGSAE

    :eek:

    Seriously can a moderator put this into the elitetrader hall of fame. You actually think there is an inverse relationship in return % relative in difficulty to account size?

    Leverage? Haha you're talking to the wrong guy, i've received quite the accolades for having 'big balls' in terms of large positions sizes relative to my account and the subsequent equity swings. I have 10% daily equity swings in my account all the time, but I keep positions on overnight all the time and in many cases some very large positions spread across many stocks. I started this year at 20K in my account and have compounded it up to over 200K, my profit on the year is about 260K NET (factoring all expenses) but i'm made periodic withdrawals for living expenses, debt, ect. So if i didn't make any withdrawals my gain on the year would be around 1300% YTD (of course this varies).

    When i first started trading this account and style back in late 06 I had less than 10K and i very gradually built it up to 20K...I always was leveraged overnight, anywhere from 12-30 times. Nowadays because i trade fewer instruments and my size is already pretty big for my account (not that long ago i held 15/10K in a pair, in otherwords i was long 15K shares of a stock and short 10K overnight) my leverage is closer to the 6-15 times leverage on overnight. Since i can get up to 6 times hedged for free (not paying any haircut) i like to always hold some positions...i'm not saying i'm a trading superstar, there is a shitload i need to work on and i've also made a good number of mistakes. I've been trading full-time for about 4 years now and part-time on the side for about 1.

    My goal is 500K next year and 1 mill the year after that...even if i achieved those goals I still wouldn't be looking at taking on clients because there are several aspects of my trading i need ironed out and i think it still isn't a long enough track record. I'm only now starting to gradually learn other styles but little techniques that are kinda subsidiaries that complement what i'm already doing...i'm also looking at doing some options, but that would be just something small and light on the side - there's no way in hell i could manage to learn a completely different instrument (e.g. futures) and maintain the edge i currently have trading pairs; my focus would be too diluted. If you really think you got this 'all figured out' after a couple of months you're about to get your head handed to you on a plate.
     
    #81     Nov 5, 2008
  2. well, good for you.
    I have been totally in Forex for slightly more than 6 months. I have some things to work on, but I hope within 5 years I hopefully reach some level.
    Plus, I am going to trade OPM , at least in the beginning until I have enough money of my own.
    I am with Title only 3 days. so, there is nothing to speak of.
    Cause i want to trade OPM, obviously I am not trading high leverage. Try to keep as low as 1/10-1/30.
     
    #82     Nov 5, 2008
  3. i am not holding overnight positions. I am scalping.
     
    #83     Nov 5, 2008
  4. Not quite, if I can find a firm that will let me open an account with $1000 and give me $300,000 in buying power and in 1 year make $300,000 does that mean I made a gazillion %?

    A more accurate way to derive a % would be to not use the account balance in the equation but rather your buying power.

    Anyway that's not important. What is important is that you're kicking A$$. Keep up the good trading and hopefully you'll smash all your targets.
     
    #84     Nov 5, 2008
  5. what's your loss limit that title offered you now as a new trader?
     
    #85     Nov 5, 2008
  6. 2-3 cents per share. It is closer to 2 cents.
     
    #86     Nov 6, 2008
  7. i mean daily max loss limit
     
    #87     Nov 6, 2008
  8. it is $20 for 100 shares. we trade 100 sahres now.
     
    #88     Nov 6, 2008
  9. I see everyone has his own standards how to count profitability.
    I was simply told % by those who watch my trading that they count profitability based on monthly returns on original capital based on 1/10-1/20 leverage. It is also well known that those who trade other people money usually trade 1/10 or less leverage.
    I trade 1/10 now too.
     
    #89     Nov 6, 2008
  10. GGSAE

    GGSAE

    Okay fair enough and i agree that these type of percentage returns are damn near impossible without big leverage (and the use of each trader's leverage is highly subjective)... anyways the point was to illustrate how absurd it is for this guy to be looking at trading other people's money with his account record and trading history.
     
    #90     Nov 6, 2008