Tit For Tat: Who will win this war?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by VicBee, Sep 7, 2023.

  1. ironchef

    ironchef

    You should not write America's obituary yet.

    China's time will come. However, even if we are in decline, it takes decades, if not centuries to change world order.

    Also, I am old enough to remember similar conversation in the 1980/90 regarding Japan. many will say this time is different but I don't think so.
     
    #21     Sep 11, 2023
  2. VicBee

    VicBee

    China has managed to pull hundreds of millions of people out of poverty thanks to its opening to the world in 1978 and thanks to the efforts of the global community to create the positive environment to make this all happen. In 45 years over 300 million Chinese are now considered middle class, almost the entire US population. It's the greatest rise in human welfare in the world's history. One may vehemently disagree with its political dictatorship, but the achievement is undeniable.
     
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    #22     Sep 11, 2023
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  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    Americans need to stop making the world about their or another's dominance.
     
    #23     Sep 11, 2023
  4. maxinger

    maxinger


    The world would be very different if President Nixon hadn't stepped on China soil 1/2 a century ago.
     
    #24     Sep 11, 2023
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  5. ph1l

    ph1l

    Until countries like Haiti, Honduras, and Nicaragua merge with the U.S., it's misleading to lump them together for comparisons with China.
     
    #25     Sep 11, 2023
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  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    The way things are with migrants from there, sooner or later they will all be Americans I am just a little ahead of time. :D
     
    #26     Sep 19, 2023
  7. schizo

    schizo

    Don't be so damn obtuse. It's only because countries like the USA gave a generous helping hand by investing in their market that they were able to get out of their poverty. :rolleyes:
     
    #27     Sep 19, 2023
  8. schizo

    schizo

    I'm old enough to remember how poor China was back in the 70s and much of the 80s. Sometime in the late 90s, I got into a heated argument with fellow Chinese netizens about IP theft. They all rationalized the theft by saying, "What other options do we have? We're poor and destitute." Well, they're still poor and their actions worse than destitute even as the second largest economy IMO.

    Anyway, I admit the US is in an inevitable decline. But that doesn't give China a free pass. I would say Japan has an upper hand than China in the Far East. However, I don't think it will be any one nation that will replace the US, but rather a multiple countries just like in the aftermath of the Roman empire.
     
    #28     Sep 19, 2023
  9. VicBee

    VicBee

     
    #29     Sep 20, 2023
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Humanity is about dominance unless you are so irrelevant or weak that you can’t play. Then you ally yourself with the biggest guy who will take you to be on the winning side by association.
     
    #30     Sep 20, 2023