Hey BD First let me say I do not understand your question(s).., this post.., or your thinking Trading the same setups off a 1 min.., and then?? off a 5 min â are totally different setups â unless your signals are converging⦠AND/ OR you understand how smaller TFs are the foundation of, and build â higher TFs If the signal is not converging⦠or you donât understand how smaller TFs build higher TFs â then youâre blind folded â standing in a dark room â while trying to hit a moving target When our analysis is murky â the solution is easy â we sit on our hands and observe/ analyze until the murkiness clears Btw â saying you use the 1 min during the first half hour (aka the open⦠aka one, if not THE â most volatile times of the day, on a reoccurring basis) â is a train wreck in the making Unless youâre trading momo, and from the way youâre describing S&R.., PA â I donât think you are â you need to stay out and observe until you get a read / idea whatâs going on No patience imho (probably stems from not wanting to miss a move â learn to let go) ==================================================================================== 2nd sentence â let a higher TF be the guide, while obviously never ignoring current PA 3rd sentence â no clue what youâre saying / asking 4th sentence â S&R is constantly surrounding price to one extent or another - what I like to see, is what Bone posted â an ambush point, and of course a target Ambush point defined; Where smaller TF signal(s) converge with higher TF signal(s) Signal(s) defined; Pick one â there are many How to identify a target; Use a higher TF in conjunction with horizontal and/or diagonal lines ======================================================================== imo Sounds as though you do not have an actual trading plan â admittedly I could be wrong though Not meaning to sound like a prick with this postâ¦, but damn your thought process is muddled RN
RN, Price action VIA charts: I understand how/why/where trends start. I understand when a trend continues/ends/fails. I get how price builds on itself in different timeframes, though obviously not how to take advantage of the ambush points. But I do see the elephant footprints. I'll try to better state my thought process: Daily chart for direction, hourly for S/R, and 1,5, for entries At the open, price has to build on itself based on its reaction to the opening price so I'm more comfortable jumping in the shortest TF as PA unfolds (assuming its in the direction the daily says its going) What I stated prior was that inevitably when price fails, say, to move higher thru its 1 minute box it will go look for support at 5 minute all the way to the longest TF etc (understanding it can bounce, drop, or consolidate) Ambush points, like confluence without the mumbo jumbo indicators right? Is this the only time I should get in a trade? In other words, when price has not failed on any TF. If you still don't get my struggles, it is simple. We know how price moves but we never know how far it'll go. I can be right on a move but it could go 2 cents and I want to find (and struggle to find) the 2 dollar moves. (often early in the day too) I hope this makes sense. Thank you so much. You are the closest thing I've had to a mentor.
Also I have developed a trading plan several times, but then learn more and outgrow the methodology. I'm about ready to give it another go. I just started scanning for stocks within 5% their 52 week high. I figure there is guaranteed interest in these, so human emotion is involved => opportunity. This should eliminate the real duds. I also have a couple intraday filters to find stocks that have moved 1-2 dollars and then consolidated. It seems important to find stocks I like on a daily chart and monitor a few for setups intraday. I just started at a prop firm in Chicago and was watching new hi/lo scrollers then trying to analyze its past on the go. Seemed inefficient so I flipped it around.
Now this is a great postâ¦, makes perfect senseâ¦., and is one we can work with Whether you know it or not â youâve covered a lot of materialâ¦, so allow me to split it up and comment in a few subsequent posts⦠Please breakdown/ question each response as you wish btw; Iâll be mixing up the sentence sequence a bit â for ease of commenting â but wonât modify your sentences (unless I screw up that is ) RN
Thisâll work.., but only ONE entry (trading) TF â make it the 5 minute⦠Use the 1 minute to fine tune you entries on the 5 minute Only one trading TF mind you - decide then never change it BS â you, me, and every other trader - has absolutely know idea which way price is headed at the open⦠and more importantly we never know what path itâll take to get where it ends up We could go broke long before price arrives at where we though it was headed
Imo (really in fact) youâre approaching your analysis⦠and trading â bassakwards FIRST â always identify S/R on the 1hr (horizontally and diagonally) â THEN â drill down into your lower TFs, with this informationâ¦, to understand where price is / and what it is doing - on your trading TF Always keep/ view/ trade the lower TF S&Rs / price movements in relationship to the bigger TF (1 hr in your case) Never the other way around Think.. analyze⦠trade â Top down⦠never Bottom up And even though your trading TF (the 5 min) is next to the lowest â always keep the bigger picture in mind⦠and in accordance with â your trading actions on the 5 min Btw 1 hr is fine for your longer intraday TFâ¦, BUT never be hesitant to change your longer (1 hr) TF for a better read (eg 30 min.. or possibly multiple hr â such as a 2â¦, 3â¦, or 4 hr chart) hint⦠hintâ¦
If you understand where a trend (move in my vernacular) starts and ends â then why is not the place where it ends â your target Iâve posted how to identify targets in two previous postsâ¦, youâve stated you understand when a trend (move in my vernacular) endsâ¦. Think though and elaborate on this one please â specifically the dilemma youâre encountering identifying a profit target On a different note - missing the 2 dollar moves (moves early in the morning) - thought it was a fear of missing out btw - is something you'll need to get a handle on and develop some patience for Look at it this way - that two dollar move - could just as well end up being a two dollar loss at this stage - better to miss it - than get bit in the ass from it
Ambush setups are the most straightforward(**) trading there is They are not momo trades⦠nor are they pseudo scalps (trading pullbacks/ tight ranges/ counter trend) nor are they reversion to a mean â all of which require complete dexterityâ¦, and more experience Ambush trades are straight up â identify a set up â wait for the set up to materialize â trade it â it either works or notâ¦. On to the next one It does not include any trading off the 1 minute at the open â in fact you need to wait till the initial (opening) push â which is typically counter to the way price ultimately moves â is over Ever hear the high/ low is typically made in the first 30/ 45 min â well it is most of the time.., then of course price heads the other way for awhile... Way better to catch this second move..., than be bit in the ass by the initial move ======================================= Losses not only extract money from us... they also extract psychological capital - which until we develop the proper mindset, affects us the rest of the day .. Possibly even week, month, year, lifetime Each time you take a shot (trade) - make it count The predominant action - a trader takes - every day - is sitting on our hands Please take this last statement to heart ========================================= (**) NOTE; I wanted to use the word easy in place of straightforwardâ¦, but until your mind is rightâ¦, none of this is easy (been there and done that)
Back in the day there was a member here called Mindtrade â I jumped his ass for calling me a mentor... I felt bad when I did it⦠I still feel bad about doing it I am not a mentorâ¦. A mentor can teach someone to do something, then that someone can do itâ¦. Trading is not like that⦠To trade successfully a person must reach down inside and find / create the proper mindset No one can do that for another⦠it must come from within But once a person has created / found that proper mindset â that is when trading becomes easy That is when trading simply becomes â find a set up â place a trade â it works or it doesnât â on to the next one =================================================================================== I hate that I jumped Mindtradeâ¦, he didnât deserve it⦠So how bout simply being two traders â talking shop â please You are Welcome Sir RN