Tipping point for the downturn regarding the US economy.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Debaser82, Dec 20, 2008.

  1. You nailed it!

    Since 2000 we have lost 4.5 million manufacturing jobs to China
     
    #11     Dec 21, 2008
  2. Humpy

    Humpy

    For decades the West has been " feather-bedding " themselves and this has let in the meaner and leaner from you know where.

    I dont hear any customers complaining though

    so maybe its time the flabby, fat arses in the West took a reality check or built a high wall around their clapped out economies to hide behind.

    :confused: :confused:
     
    #12     Dec 21, 2008
  3. And in 1950 you lost millions of low level farm jobs to Mexico and Brazil. Did that make Mexico and Brazil rich?

    Do you wish there were still millions of highschool dropouts working on US farms for $1 an hour? Or are we better off leaving these jobs to other countries and instead focusing our human capital on products and services that have higher barriers to entry?
     
    #13     Dec 21, 2008
  4. zdreg

    zdreg

    you have absolutely no proof what the effects of saving lehman would have been. you have shown absolutely no proof to the effect of the lehman demise.

    it is the usual error in logic. you are confusing correlation with cause.
     
    #14     Dec 21, 2008
  5. Ok...so you have opinion...lets hear it instead of simply "bagging" somebody else's considered opinion.

    I also have an opinion related to Lehman and if it is similar to your own I will be the first admit it...Let's go....

    ...
     
    #15     Dec 21, 2008
  6. zdreg

    zdreg

    "lets hear it instead of simply "bagging" somebody else's considered opinion."

    a professor I knew use to expound his philosophy on grading numerous times during the semester: E for effort and F for the course.:)

    of course this was long ago when standards were upheld.
     
    #16     Dec 21, 2008
  7. And your opinion is?
     
    #17     Dec 21, 2008
  8. It will be the implosion of either the CDS market or the Credit Card market. The Credit Card market is estimated at $1T while the CDS market is estimated at $50T. Defaults in the CC market could trigger defaults in the CDS market.

    In 2009 and 2010 there are secondary waves of ARMs that are schedule to reset that are equal to the size of the Sub-prime waves but they are higher grade than the Sub-prime market. The resetting of these ARMs could trigger the CC's, which, in turn, could trigger the CDS.
     
    #18     Dec 21, 2008
  9. No proof needed buddy, it's just an opinion.

    Look up the high yield bond spreads, CDS spreads and LIBOR charts following September 15 (Lehman failure) and March 17 (Bear Stearns bailout). It tells a "story", but I agree it's not scientific proof.
     
    #19     Dec 21, 2008
  10. zdreg

    zdreg

    i agree chief.
     
    #20     Dec 21, 2008