@themickey, truly relieved you are resting your case, finally. This thread was becoming an unhealthy obsession. Good Bye. @maxinger, I am glad as well. The main theme of this thread is for people to do their own due diligence before forking over thousands of dollars for a teacher/mentor ($25,000+ in the above case). Especially for hard working, regular folks, who may go through certain sacrifice to pay these fees. At least now, they can make an informed decision, and come to their own conclusions based on the information provided here, which was not available before, anywhere.