Well I got a call from them, trying to sell me their 'system'. I was asked a leading question: "what's your profit target for the day, and what would you do if you could make $x hundred per day..." (I'm sure you can see where this is leading...) I specifically asked what they are offering and how much it would cost. She refused on the price - as she wanted me to see an online demo before making a decision. I asked if it was a black box system, and was assured it wasn't. I agreed to an online (go to meeting) demo, and while waiting found this post as well as their website... The website is not very informative, and the demo video is no longer available... (more hmmm...) So the demo...They are trading the emini using NinjaTrader. In brief they are selling a 'proprietary' indicator "that is not a black box, since it is discretionary" :-} for $1495 + $300/month. The indicator looks suspiciously like a short (5 or 8) period MA and a long (200?) MA. The long indicator is surrounded by two channel lines that seem to do nothing - or the presenter quickly determined that I knew more than they wanted from a client :-( The system works by going long when the short crosses the long indicator, etc... He used a replay system. When I asked for him to use it live, he indicated that we might be sitting a while (7:30 PM EST), he was trading on a 233 tick chart... When I asked if there was anything else, he was quick to end the conversation. I think they had not properly screened me to know if I qualified for their service... Just my experience...the one replay trade they did was very impressive ;-}