============== FRostE; Yes, while you're trading DIA,SPY, writing plenty of data,notes,s&r on DIA,SPY. Do the same on thier derivatives; actually might be very scared also ; if what I knew about ES is '' ES is like 12 or something '' And very well may be too soon to trade YM; part of your well founded respect/fear is good, but not the ''es is like 12 or something'' Hope this helps. Dont know much about NQ either.