Three more mass shootings this weekend

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ipatent, Jun 5, 2022.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Last year, President Barack Obama claimed, “We are the only advanced country on Earth that sees this kind of mass violence erupt with this kind of frequency.” And that has become kind of a rallying cry among anti-gun advocates. What does your research show?

    John Lott: It is completely false. And Obama repeated this claim many times. For example, last year he flatly claimed: “It doesn’t happen in other advanced countries. It’s not even close.”

    To gun control advocates, if the U.S. would only adopt the types of gun control laws that exist in other countries, this problem would supposedly go away. Hillary Clinton made this explicit when she said mass public shootings “are rooted in the much too readily available weapons of mass killings, usually assault weapons.”

    However, in just 2015, France—a country with one-fifth the population of the United States—had more casualties from mass public shootings than the U.S. had during the entire eight years of the Obama presidency (532 versus 527). And, of course, mass public shootings in France have occurred regularly over the years. All the weapons used in the 2015 France attacks were already illegal. The eight who attacked various sites in Paris in November 2015 were armed with automatic AK-47s and explosive suicide belts. The February 2015 Copenhagen attack was carried out with an automatic M95 assault rifle. In the January 2015 attack on Charlie Hebdo and a kosher supermarket in Paris, the terrorists were armed with automatic Kalashnikov rifles, a loaded M42 rocket launcher, semi-automatic handguns, smoke grenades, Molotov cocktails, a hand grenade and sticks of dynamite.

    Mass public shootings are defined as four or more people killed in a public place, and not in the course of committing another crime, and not involving struggles over sovereignty. Using the traditional FBI definition, the EU and the U.S. each experienced 25 mass shootings during the first seven years of Obama’s presidency (January 2009 to December 2015).

    The rate at which people were killed was virtually the same: 0.083 per million people in the EU versus 0.089 per million people in the U.S. But the injury rate in the EU was more than twice as high: 0.19 versus 0.087. The cases are listed in my book, The War on Guns, so people can check each case themselves.

    If you compare the U.S. to individual countries in Europe over the same period, the U.S. had the 11th highest fatality rate. Because of Anders Breivik’s 2011 attack at a summer camp, Norway had the top spot—1.9 per million people per year. This rate was 21 times higher than that of the U.S. But other advanced countries such as France, Switzerland, Finland, Belgium and the Czech Republic also came in above the U.S.

    Looking only at the frequency of attacks—as Obama seems wont to do—while still adjusting for population, the U.S. came in 12th, with 0.078 per million people.

    Compared to the rest of the world, moreover, the U.S. and Europe are quite safe from mass public shootings. In Russia and elsewhere, struggles over sovereignty have led to a large number of devastating attacks. For instance, the 2004 Beslan school siege—carried out in the name of Chechen independence—claimed 385 lives.

    Since 1970, all but one of the 20 worst mass public shootings and 45 of the worst 50 cases occurred outside the United States. Again, I list the cases in my book so people can check all the cases up through March 2016.
     
    #21     Jun 7, 2022
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Children having their little brains blown of their little heads is or hearts blown out of their little chests is the human sacrifice America makes for right wingers unfettered gun rights.
     
    #22     Jun 7, 2022
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    K, we have different ideas about intentional human sacrifice. We'll agree to disagree on that one.

    And by the way, you brought up the little brains blown out, so I could not resist. It's YOUR fault I post this, lol!

     
    #23     Jun 7, 2022
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    School shootings in The US have nothing to do with American's gun rights----and as I have already shown you, the US places lower than much of the world in terms of mass shootings. Go boil yer head.
     
    #24     Jun 7, 2022
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


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  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    What country currently has over 245 mass shootings in 2022?



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  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Blood spilled is sacrifice whether its a knife or a gun in most belief systems. American Gods showed Vulcan who became the largest munitions maker in America.

     
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  9. easymon1

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