Thoughtful Progressives See Common Ground With Alt Right

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. java

    java

    What was it about Gary Johnson you thought was so goofy?
     
    #11     Apr 23, 2017
  2. wildchild

    wildchild

    He was a goof. Did the guy seriously not know what Aleppo was? He could make a non-interventionist argument against action, but he has to at least know what is going on in the world. How can you be President if you are not even up to speed on current events?

    They really wasted a golden opportunity this past election cycle. You had two of the worst candidates ever for the major parties. The fact that they couldnt make any headway in 2016 shows how bad Johnson was.
     
    #12     Apr 23, 2017
  3. java

    java

    Trump is good for paving the way. Aleppo was a media gaff and had nothing to do with Gary Johnson or the libertarian party. Skipping politics for a minute in that who is electable, most people if you just talk to them are libertarians. Or at least almost all men are. I watch that girl on Morning Joe msnbc form 6 to 7 and she is terrified all the time of everything and wants the government to deal with her fears for her. Oh well world now 51% female and getting more and more so I guess the old boy way of doing things is coming to an end. If it weren't for Trump politics already would be a girl thing.
     
    #13     Apr 23, 2017
  4. wildchild

    wildchild

    Aleppo had to do with Gary Johnson, but not necessarily the libertarian party.

    On the thing with females you are pretty much correct. Now a days if a 10 year old boy acts like a 10 year old boy they want to put him on medication. Its a sick world and doesnt appear to be getting any better.
     
    #14     Apr 23, 2017
  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    People may be forgetting the third and fourth parties. Ecuador, and Great Britain. It is not at all clear that Trump could prosecute Assange, even if he wanted too. If Trump wants to use Assange as a bargaining chip with the 'deep State' (whatever that is) he better hope the 'deep state' is as easily suckered as the "freshmen" at 'Trump University'. He failed to sucker El Presidente de Mexico. Will he succeed with El Presidente de Ecuador? For Trumps sake, let's hope the 'Art of the Deal' doesn't depend on the counterparty be dumber than Trump!
     
    #15     Apr 23, 2017

  6. It's not that what you say is wrong, because it's not, it's just that we seem to be way past all that. You and George Will are arguing about who is the real conservative, and the rest of us are buying guns and ammo because we see what's coming.
     
    #16     Apr 23, 2017
  7. jem

    jem

    you claim to be a libertarian but support tpp and having the IRS targeting conservatives, you think it was smart to give nukes to iran and you claim to be pro US worker but support bringing a million immigrants a year.

    when you explain that crap you have right to call trump dumb.
    and don't try the usual leftist lies...
    its not cute or smart when you deny cash went to iran and Obama wanted to sell them yellow cake and the treaty allows them to get within 6 months of a bomb in a decade.


     
    #17     Apr 23, 2017
  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    interesting comments!
     
    #18     Apr 24, 2017
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    I don't know what your true politics are. That's your business. But I hope you realize that Gary Johnson , like the majority of others here that are calling themselves Libertarians, is not a Libertarian. That's just a label they have co-opted. Of course if they keep this up people will eventually forget what traditional Libertarians stood for and just associate the label with what ever it is that these anti-government folks espouse. Johnson's running mate, Bill Weld, was a Libertarian, and I guess that's why they fell ought with each other. Noam Chomsky had something to say about this co-opting of the Libertarian label. He hasn't quite figured out what these folks who are running around insisting on calling themselves "Libertarians" are either, but he has referred to them as "anarcho-capitalists," and this seems to me to be a fair description.
     
    #19     Apr 24, 2017
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Dude, you've droned on and on about this repeatedly. No current political party actually stands for what they stood for when they were created. Not Liberals, not Conservatives, and certainly not Libertarians. You need to face the fact that living in your 18th century history book is now irrelevant and reclass yourself accordingly. Unless you just want to shout at the rain and not make sense to anyone unaware or uncaring of the past.

    Get with it. You are not a Libertarian anymore. The definition of the political party has changed. Your views are more aligned with Liberals today, and that makes you a Liberal. If you go to a social event (assuming you get out of the house) and tell people what you believe in, they'll label you a Liberal (like we all do here) and when you object and say something like "Technically, I'm a libertarian the way it used to be 100 years ago", people will nod politely, forget what you said 5 min later and label you a kook (which isn't far from the truth).

    Get over it.
     
    #20     Apr 24, 2017
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