This too shall pass. ( Inverted treasury curve)

Discussion in 'Economics' started by eurusdzn, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Ahhh where was that mentioned (always, never fails) in this topic?
     
    #11     Mar 30, 2019
  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    BTW Fed Total Assets dropped again in this week's report.

    But we're not "selling" .... riiiiiight.
     
    #12     Mar 30, 2019
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I'm honestly curious as to this being a sure indicator of a recession, not being sarcastic.
     
    #13     Mar 30, 2019
  4. srinir

    srinir

    All the recessions have followed after curve inverted, but not all curve inversions has caused recession.

    It is similar to quote by Paul Samuelson.
    "The stock market has forecast nine of the last five recessions.
    • Paul Samuelson (1966), quoted in: John C Bluedorn et al. Do Asset Price Drops Foreshadow Recessions? (2013), p. 4"
     
    #14     Mar 30, 2019
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  5. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10Y2Y#0

    This 10 - 2 year spread has been a typically been used to discuss inversion in the media.
    This not yet inverted.
    I can't comment on the 10 - 3 month spread that inverted recently and caught attention
    See for yourself the predictive quality and timimg.
    Slide the chart back in time .
    I domt remember anything before the "great sag" in the late 1800's
    Greenspan was young then as well.
     
    #15     Mar 30, 2019
  6. srinir

    srinir

    10-3 month spread is used typically than 10-2 year spread to predict the recession. Fed. reserve uses this measure
     
    #16     Mar 30, 2019
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  7. sle

    sle

    Yup and here it is:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10Y3M

    It's more than just "it predicts a recession" by forecasting the expected path of the Fed policy, but it also partially causes it by hammering the financial sector.
     
    #17     Mar 30, 2019
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  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    Recessions follow yield curve inversions because everyone makes it so. They believe so strongly that a recession MUST follow a fucking yield-curve inversion, they MAKE IT HAPPEN with their actions.

    Kids in a sandbox I tell you.

    There is no NEED for a recession. But everyone now wants one to happen. And thus, it will happen soon now.
     
    #18     Mar 30, 2019
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Nonsense pure and simple.

    Why did the chicken cross the road, because everyone thought it should duh.
     
    #19     Mar 31, 2019
  10. How to trade the inversion...
     
    #20     Mar 31, 2019