I don't have much to add that hasn't already been said. Please do a background check on ZH, since it's one of those sites that mix real news with paid propaganda from Kreml.
Correction to my previous post TrAndy2022 is a German Dummkopf ... via Moscow or Leningrad. Only on here to instigate and agitate.
It's NOT fraud. It's bureaucracy. It's just because the death information of these unverified 100+ year old people were not entered properly in the database to show that they are dead because they were dead before the usage of electronic database for recordkeeping. The actual SS benefits checks are in fact not being cashed meaning that the money is not taken; it's still there. And this error is already known by the government as early as 2015 and as a result of the most recent audit in 2023. https://nypost.com/2025/02/17/us-ne...ion-in-social-security-database-over-age-100/
Pretty sure if they actually ask someone who was maintaining the systems, they’d get an explanation. If I had to guess, it was done on purpose as a flag for people whose date of birth is unknown (because I myself seen this type of approach with bonds where maturity is unknown). But instead the new “management” prefers to yell and posture.
I'm not sure if anyone is still reading this drivel, but Elon's claims are FALSE. Most of what he said at last week's WH conference was also completely false. It's been debunked by numerous folks who work very closely with this stuff yet the media doesn't want to take the time to dig in and get the actual facts. There are THREE databases used primarily by SSA, as well as a number of other ancillary subsystems that feed into them and are run against them for various reasons. Elon's people are looking at the NUMIDENT database. NUMIDENT has tens of millions of people with no recorded date of death - that were born very long ago. NUMIDENT is completely separate from the payment record database, which is suspended or dropped for nearly all of these cases. The SSA has systems in place and teams of people for folks over 100 to greatly reduce the incidence of fraud, but that doesn't fit the narrative everyone wants to run with this week. Some years ago the government discovered about 15 million very old records of people that were obviously deceased but had no date of death recorded in NUMIDENT that were not getting payments. So the government had some meetings and said "what should we do?" We can spend years and tens of millions of dollars researching all of this - that would be stupid and inefficient - or we can just let it go since they aren't getting money anyway. What should they have done according to Elon? Oh wait he already left and lost interest in this...that was 150 tweets ago. There are tons of other lies being spread by DOGE to try and keep public support for Elon's dismantling of govt going for a while longer and we could go on...but I will cover one more whopper for now. Improper Payments - trillions over the last decade!!! OMG!!!! Every month in the US about 225,000 people die. That's over 7,000 a day. Benefits paying agencies certify monthly payments to recipients about 7-10 days before the money actually winds up in a bank account as the files must go from them to Treasury, hit the ACH que etc... From the time someone dies until SSA adds their death to the SSA Death Master File is typically about 10 days - sometimes less, sometimes more depending on host of factors. This results in many thousands of dead people being paid benefits every month. These are all improper payments and of course they add up to HUGE numbers - and that's the only number Elon and Fox News is going to give you. What they're not telling you is that over 95% of those funds are clawed back in a matter of days, so the net lost funds from improper payments is a tiny fraction of what you're being told. Is there fraud, waste and abuse in the government? Absolutely. Does the government pay for some of the dumbest shit in the world and should it be stopped? without question... YES!!! The Republicans have finally learned to do what the Democrats mastered years ago - throw some bullshit fresh meat to your base and move on to the next topic before anyone looks too closely. The public doesn't know any better.
Not sure why SS would approve SS benefits for someone they don't know or can't prove their birthday??
lol, even the many audits would not satifiy the conspiracists, and the federal reserve is not part of the federal government. https://www.stlouisfed.org/in-plain-english/who-owns-the-federal-reserve-banks The Federal Reserve Banks are not a part of the federal government, but they exist because of an act of Congress.
I doubt a large group of people want it investigated and they will throw up all kind of reasons as to why it shouldn't be investigated and will likely furiously protest any investigation.
Likely if there was a national poll taken asking Americans their top 50! issues to be looked at, audit the Fed prolly wouldn't make the list. Well unless they limited it to TinFoilHat folks.