This makes me SICK

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by bungrider, Mar 26, 2004.

  1. Republicans suggest Clarke may have lied under oath
    Friday, March 26, 2004 Posted: 3:55 PM EST (2055 GMT)

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Top Republicans in Congress sought Friday to declassify two-year-old testimony by former White House aide Richard Clarke, suggesting he may have lied this week when he faulted President Bush's handling of the war on terror.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/26/clarke.congress.ap/index.html

    What would Jesus say about this?

    Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, "Friend, let me take the speck out of your eye," when you yourself do not see the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye. Luke 6:41-42
     
  2. Let's ask him.
     
  3. Posted on Mon, Jan. 27, 2003

    Invading Iraq not a new idea for Bush clique

    4 years before 9/11, plan was set

    By WILLIAM BUNCH



    http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/2003/01/27/news/local/5025024.htm

    Gives bios of inner Bush cabinet and their former positions. Quotes Rumsfeld as saying "Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not." Quotes Cheney in 1992 as saying "How many additional American lives is Saddam Hussein worth? And the answer I would give is not very damn many."





    Republicans seek to declassify old Clarke testimony

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Leading congressional Republicans announced plans Friday to seek declassification of 2-year-old testimony from Richard Clarke, hoping to show discrepancies between his recent criticisms of the Bush administration's terrorism policies with flattering statements he made as a White House aide.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/26/clarke.congress.ap/index.html

    It seems a bit inconsistent to want to declassify documents, when the White House recently has been criticized for their seemingly unnecessary classification of certain documents pertaining to hazardous material spills, as well as other environmental pollution http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2003/01/ma_219_01.html - gives a list of examples, and quotes Dan Burton (R-Ind) as saying "An iron veil is descending over the executive branch."
    The White House also sent the Justice Department after Paul O'Neill, believing that he may have shared classified documents with Ron Suskind, author of "The Price of Loyalty," in which O'Neill alleges Bush "was like a blind man in a roomful of deaf people." http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/oneill.bush/index.html





    Good article about the real motivations behind the war http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2003-1/WAR_2/X0118_Well_Written_Conspir.html



    Incidentally, I didn't know Rumsfeld was former CEO of a pharmaceutical company. I guess everyone in the administration is getting a piece of the action. Nothing like a Medicare prescription drug benefit to inject a little juice into pharms. Here's a letter the FDA wrote to Searle & Co. in 2000 http://www.pharmcast.com/WarningLetters/April2000/GDSearle0400.htm
    The FDA Officer wrote, "We are concerned that the activities described above demonstrate a continuing pattern and practice of violative behaviors that evince widespread corporate involvement and acquiescence with your employees’ activities. Although we do not believe that we should interfere with, or comment on, a drug sponsor’s internal policies and procedures that are being instituted in response to serious violations of the law, it appears that your actions have not been successful in bringing your promotional practices into compliance with the law." The FDA alleged seven individual complaints, including "Misrepresentation of Safety Information," and two complaints for "Unsubstantiated Comparative Claims."



    http://www.rediff.com/money/2003/apr/29paran.htm - Alleges that "Since 1999, Halliburton has donated $700,000 -- or 95 per cent of all political donations made by the company -- to the Republican Party."


    http://iacs5.ucsd.edu/~mmogri/world/iraq/imperial.html - lots of good dirt on the Project for the New American Century team of superstars (aka White House.)
     
  4. http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

    January 26, 1998



    The Honorable William J. Clinton
    President of the United States
    Washington, DC


    Dear Mr. President:

    We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

    The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.


    Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.


    Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

    We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

    We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

    Sincerely,

    Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

    Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

    Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

    William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

    Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

    Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick
     
  5. Pabst

    Pabst

    CLINTON: Good evening.

    Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

    Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

    Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

    I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.

    Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq's capability to retain, create and use weapons of mass destruction, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability.

    The inspectors undertook this mission first 7.5 years ago at the end of the Gulf War when Iraq agreed to declare and destroy its arsenal as a condition of the ceasefire.

    The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.

    The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.

    The United States has patiently worked to preserve UNSCOM as Iraq has sought to avoid its obligation to cooperate with the inspectors. On occasion, we've had to threaten military force, and Saddam has backed down.

    Faced with Saddam's latest act of defiance in late October, we built intensive diplomatic pressure on Iraq backed by overwhelming military force in the region. The UN Security Council voted 15 to zero to condemn Saddam's actions and to demand that he immediately come into compliance.

    Eight Arab nations -- Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates and Oman -- warned that Iraq alone would bear responsibility for the consequences of defying the UN.

    When Saddam still failed to comply, we prepared to act militarily. It was only then at the last possible moment that Iraq backed down. It pledged to the UN that it had made, and I quote, a clear and unconditional decision to resume cooperation with the weapons inspectors.

    I decided then to call off the attack with our airplanes already in the air because Saddam had given in to our demands. I concluded then that the right thing to do was to use restraint and give Saddam one last chance to prove his willingness to cooperate.

    I made it very clear at that time what unconditional cooperation meant, based on existing UN resolutions and Iraq's own commitments. And along with Prime Minister Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully, we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning.

    Now over the past three weeks, the UN weapons inspectors have carried out their plan for testing Iraq's cooperation. The testing period ended this weekend, and last night, UNSCOM's chairman, Richard Butler, reported the results to UN Secretary-General Annan.

    The conclusions are stark, sobering and profoundly disturbing.

    In four out of the five categories set forth, Iraq has failed to cooperate. Indeed, it actually has placed new restrictions on the inspectors. Here are some of the particulars.

    Iraq repeatedly blocked UNSCOM from inspecting suspect sites. For example, it shut off access to the headquarters of its ruling party and said it will deny access to the party's other offices, even though UN resolutions make no exception for them and UNSCOM has inspected them in the past.

    Iraq repeatedly restricted UNSCOM's ability to obtain necessary evidence. For example, Iraq obstructed UNSCOM's effort to photograph bombs related to its chemical weapons program.

    It tried to stop an UNSCOM biological weapons team from videotaping a site and photocopying documents and prevented Iraqi personnel from answering UNSCOM's questions.

    Prior to the inspection of another site, Iraq actually emptied out the building, removing not just documents but even the furniture and the equipment.

    Iraq has failed to turn over virtually all the documents requested by the inspectors. Indeed, we know that Iraq ordered the destruction of weapons-related documents in anticipation of an UNSCOM inspection.

    So Iraq has abused its final chance.
     
  6. Pabst

    Pabst

    As the UNSCOM reports concludes, and again I quote, "Iraq's conduct ensured that no progress was able to be made in the fields of disarmament.

    "In light of this experience, and in the absence of full cooperation by Iraq, it must regrettably be recorded again that the commission is not able to conduct the work mandated to it by the Security Council with respect to Iraq's prohibited weapons program."

    In short, the inspectors are saying that even if they could stay in Iraq, their work would be a sham.

    Saddam's deception has defeated their effectiveness. Instead of the inspectors disarming Saddam, Saddam has disarmed the inspectors.

    This situation presents a clear and present danger to the stability of the Persian Gulf and the safety of people everywhere. The international community gave Saddam one last chance to resume cooperation with the weapons inspectors. Saddam has failed to seize the chance.

    And so we had to act and act now.

    Let me explain why.

    First, without a strong inspection system, Iraq would be free to retain and begin to rebuild its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs in months, not years.

    Second, if Saddam can crippled the weapons inspection system and get away with it, he would conclude that the international community -- led by the United States -- has simply lost its will. He will surmise that he has free rein to rebuild his arsenal of destruction, and someday -- make no mistake -- he will use it again as he has in the past.

    Third, in halting our air strikes in November, I gave Saddam a chance, not a license. If we turn our backs on his defiance, the credibility of U.S. power as a check against Saddam will be destroyed. We will not only have allowed Saddam to shatter the inspection system that controls his weapons of mass destruction program; we also will have fatally undercut the fear of force that stops Saddam from acting to gain domination in the region.

    That is why, on the unanimous recommendation of my national security team -- including the vice president, the secretary of defense, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the secretary of state and the national security adviser -- I have ordered a strong, sustained series of air strikes against Iraq.

    They are designed to degrade Saddam's capacity to develop and deliver weapons of mass destruction, and to degrade his ability to threaten his neighbors.

    At the same time, we are delivering a powerful message to Saddam. If you act recklessly, you will pay a heavy price. We acted today because, in the judgment of my military advisers, a swift response would provide the most surprise and the least opportunity for Saddam to prepare.

    If we had delayed for even a matter of days from Chairman Butler's report, we would have given Saddam more time to disperse his forces and protect his weapons.

    Also, the Muslim holy month of Ramadan begins this weekend. For us to initiate military action during Ramadan would be profoundly offensive to the Muslim world and, therefore, would damage our relations with Arab countries and the progress we have made in the Middle East.

    That is something we wanted very much to avoid without giving Iraq's a month's head start to prepare for potential action against it.

    Finally, our allies, including Prime Minister Tony Blair of Great Britain, concurred that now is the time to strike. I hope Saddam will come into cooperation with the inspection system now and comply with the relevant UN Security Council resolutions. But we have to be prepared that he will not, and we must deal with the very real danger he poses.

    So we will pursue a long-term strategy to contain Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction and work toward the day when Iraq has a government worthy of its people.

    First, we must be prepared to use force again if Saddam takes threatening actions, such as trying to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction or their delivery systems, threatening his neighbors, challenging allied aircraft over Iraq or moving against his own Kurdish citizens.

    The credible threat to use force, and when necessary, the actual use of force, is the surest way to contain Saddam's weapons of mass destruction program, curtail his aggression and prevent another Gulf War.

    Second, so long as Iraq remains out of compliance, we will work with the international community to maintain and enforce economic sanctions. Sanctions have cost Saddam more than $120 billion -- resources that would have been used to rebuild his military. The sanctions system allows Iraq to sell oil for food, for medicine, for other humanitarian supplies for the Iraqi people.

    We have no quarrel with them. But without the sanctions, we would see the oil-for-food program become oil-for-tanks, resulting in a greater threat to Iraq's neighbors and less food for its people.

    The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.
    The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people. Bringing change in Baghdad will take time and effort. We will strengthen our engagement with the full range of Iraqi opposition forces and work with them effectively and prudently.

    The decision to use force is never cost-free. Whenever American forces are placed in harm's way, we risk the loss of life. And while our strikes are focused on Iraq's military capabilities, there will be unintended Iraqi casualties.


    Indeed, in the past, Saddam has intentionally placed Iraqi civilians in harm's way in a cynical bid to sway international opinion.

    We must be prepared for these realities. At the same time, Saddam should have absolutely no doubt if he lashes out at his neighbors, we will respond forcefully.

    Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction. If Saddam defies the world and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors. He will make war on his own people.

    And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them.

    Because we're acting today, it is less likely that we will face these dangers in the future.

    Let me close by addressing one other issue. Saddam Hussein and the other enemies of peace may have thought that the serious debate currently before the House of Representatives would distract Americans or weaken our resolve to face him down.

    But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America's vital interests, we will do so.

    In the century we're leaving, America has often made the difference between chaos and community, fear and hope. Now, in the new century, we'll have a remarkable opportunity to shape a future more peaceful than the past, but only if we stand strong against the enemies of peace.

    Tonight, the United States is doing just that. May God bless and protect the brave men and women who are carrying out this vital mission and their families. And may God bless America.
     
  7. Elliott Abrams - convicted felon, pardoned by Daddy Bush, coauthor of the imperialist report above.
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    http://oldamericancentury.org/bushcontra.htm - excellent historical timeline of the Iran-Contra theft of $10-30million dollars by several of the gentlemen, including Abrams, who now are paid with our tax dollars to "serve" in Bush's cabinet.


    Otto Reich - [​IMG]
    This is just too much - so apparently, Reich helped terrorist Orlando Bosch - who had done jail time in the US for TERRORISM - get safe exile in the United States - http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2003/11.html - "An anti-Castro ideologue, Reich was quick to accuse Cuba of developing a biological warfare capacity. Before you could ask "Where's the evidence?" his own State Department published a sweeping 177-page report on global terrorism. The Miami Herald wrote that Reich, "appeared initially confused when asked why the report made no mention of Cuba's bio-weapons research."
    "Is it an oversight?" asked Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND).

    "I do not know who publishes that particular document," said Reich.
    "It's your department that publishes it," said Dorgan. "This is a State Department publication."
    It's deja vu all over again, and while the plot and dialogue are farce, the toll in lost liberties and lives is tragic."



    Appointments that expose Bush's hypocrisy in 'war on terrorism'
    By Duncan Campbell

    LOS ANGELES: His name may sound like that of a character from a Mel Brooks musical but Otto Reich is real enough. He has just been appointed by President Bush as assistant secretary of state for western hemisphere affairs - and both the manner of his appointment and the role he will now play have profound implications for a part of the world often disregarded since Sept 11...

    http://www.dawn.com/2002/02/09/int11.htm
     
  8. So are you conceding that Bill Clinton did a far better job with Iraq?

    I mean, the allegations made by O'Neill and Clarke (who both served other republican presidents) would certainly seem to support the pretty damning letter from PNAC that the Bush administration has basically ignored Al Queda, which, the last time I checked, has been attacking US embassies, soldiers, and civilians.
     
  9. 'Cold warrior' at heart of Cuba crackdown
    Critics blast Bush appointee's grip on policy

    By Mike Shields, Journal-World City Editor

    Friday, February 27, 2004

    U.S. policy toward Cuba is dominated by one man, a scandal-plagued Cold War relic who has no business being President Bush's chief adviser on Latin America.

    That's what U.S. Sen. Pat Roberts, the Kansas Republican who heads the Senate Intelligence Committee, has to say about Otto Reich.

    "He's known as a hard-liner, not only with regards to Cuba, but Colombia, Venezuela and other areas in the hemisphere," Roberts told the Journal-World. "I just don't think Mr. Reich is the man for the job. Mr. Reich, I think, is still back in the Cuban Missile Crisis era."

    http://www.ljworld.com/section/citynews/story/162559




    My point is this -- you have a ranking Republican Senate Intelligence committee member saying that Reich is inappropriate -- you have the fact that we all know anyway that Bush lied about the WMDs, and the fact that they turn around and waste everyone's time calling the whistle-blowers liars, and you think that this is OK?

    What does this administration have to do to make you think they're not OK?

    I mean, I wouldn't care if Iraq had actually been a "fear and awe" campaign -- but it's a bad idea, and everyone knew it wouldn't work, and it hasn't -- it was a retarded idea set in motion by the systematic prostitution of the CIA, and now we're going to have to pay the price for it for many years to come.

    Why is this OK?
     
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Pabst, it looks like all the liberals on ET have no response to that Clinton speech. I have to admit, it is pretty damning to their cause.
     
    #10     Mar 27, 2004