this kid should be out of jail NOW

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Gordon Gekko, Feb 4, 2004.

  1. every time i hear about this story, i get so annoyed and pissed off. the president or someone should have pardoned this kid a long time ago. this is some of the biggest bullsh!t i have ever seen in my life. the concept that the law is the law and it's always right is LIMITED THINKING. this is total bs.

    http://www.vanderbilthustler.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/02/03/401f153806b47
     
  2. ...isn't this like n+5 posts, where n was yer 2nd-to-last post...??

    PS i dated a 15yr old girl when i was 17. she was horny. :D :D :D
     
  3. that's cute.

    last time i'm going to say this..

    as stated in the thread you're referring to, i had like 10 beers that night and it was like 3am. i fully admit that post is one of my worst.

    anyone who says my word means nothing because of something i said while somewhat drunk CAN KISS MY ASS. probably everyone on this site has said something stupid while drunk, including you, so STFU. :)
     
  4. ahh GG...no worries.

    FWIW i was pretty surly last night when i posted that...:D :D :D
     
  5. Just goes to a show that a 3.9 GPA doesnt mean SQUAT
    when it comes to common sense :D

    The court should simply decide wether or not this 15 year
    old has the capacity to make adult decisions, and if so,
    if this was consensual, he should be let free.

    If a group of experts decides THIS 15 year old, does not have
    the intellectual capacity to pass as an "adult", then he is screwed.

    The extreme analogy which points out the core of this issue is this:

    Say a 50 year old had sex with a 5 year old. And the 5 year
    old said she enjoyed it and WANTED it. Clearly...it doesnt matter
    what the 5 year old says because the 5 year old is NOT an
    "intellecutal adult" who can make those kinds of decisions.

    This 15 year old girl, may in fact, have the "adult reasoning faculty" to
    make such decisions, but unfortunately, "the law" has to draw
    a line in the sand somewhere.

    This guy wasnt too bright for crossing that line.


    peace

    axeman
     
  6. There you go applying your erroneous logic to law. The law states very clearly at what age one is considered an adult. Now, if you are below that age, you are not a legal adult. If you are that age or above, you are an adult. Pretty simple math, isn't it?

    Now, if you want to debate "subjective maturity," then I could argue that there are a lot of 15 year olds who are more mature and adult-like than some 40 year olds.

    You want a panel of experts to decide if this girl can make "adult decisions?" Give me a break. She already made an adult decision when she decided to have sex with him. What you are asking is to put together a panel of experts to decide whether she made the "right decision for her age." Obviously she wanted to have sex with him -- it was not rape in the non-statutory sense.

    This is a cut and dry case. Putting this man in jail for 10 years doesn't help him or society, so it is a stupid decision. You don't need a panel of experts to see that, just common sense.
     
  7. "There you go applying your erroneous logic to law. The law states very clearly at what age one is considered an adult. Now, if you are below that age, you are not a legal adult. If you are that age or above, you are an adult. Pretty simple math, isn't it?"

    The only thing simple is your mind. How do you think the
    LAW MAKERS came up with this arbitrary line? Ever think about that?
    They took an educated GUESS. Clearly not ALL 15 year olds
    are adults. And clearly not ALL 15 year olds are children.




    "Now, if you want to debate "subjective maturity," then I could argue that there are a lot of 15 year olds who are more mature and adult-like than some 40 year olds.

    Now this begs the question.... Should a 15 year old who is
    as mature as a 40 year old be allowed to have sex with an 18 year old?
    If you say yes, then YOU AGREE WITH ME.
    The "15 year line" is fuzzy. This is NOT cut and dry.




    "You want a panel of experts to decide if this girl can make "adult decisions?" Give me a break. She already made an adult decision when she decided to have sex with him."

    Thats laughable. So a 5 year old who decides to have sex
    with a 50 year old IS AN ADULT, *BECAUSE* they made
    an adult decision? Your falling apart here.



    " What you are asking is to put together a panel of experts to decide whether she made the "right decision for her age." Obviously she wanted to have sex with him -- it was not rape in the non-statutory sense. "

    Again.... if a 5 year old OBVIOUSLY wanted to have sex with
    a 50 year old, then its OK??? Your still not making any sense.




    "This is a cut and dry case. Putting this man in jail for 10 years doesn't help him or society, so it is a stupid decision. You don't need a panel of experts to see that, just common sense. "

    Obviously, this is not cut and dry.
    Let me put it this way:

    Are they ANY 15 year olds in the world that are not mature
    enough to make the adult decision to make have sex with an adult??

    How about 10 year olds?

    How about 5?

    What if this 15year old girl was retarded?


    Now do you GET IT ?


    Here is the funny part:

    aphex:The law states very clearly at what age one is considered an adult. Now, if you are below that age, you are not a legal adult

    aphex:Putting this man in jail for 10 years doesn't help him or society, so it is a stupid decision

    Sentence one you claim she is clearly NOT an adult, and therefore this was RAPE.
    In sentence two, you state he shouldnt go to jail (for rape).


    You seem very confused. :D



    peace

    axeman
     
  8. Yeah, like no one in Congress ever screwed an underage girl.
     
  9. Mvic

    Mvic

  10. This is where judicial discretion should come into play.

    Is this guy a sexual predator. Is there any evidence of that?

    Being the south, does anyone know if the girl was white?
     
    #10     Feb 9, 2004