This is what happens when you accept immorality as a "lifestyle" choice

Discussion in 'Politics' started by peilthetraveler, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. stu

    stu

    I would suggest you can't reasonably conclude that should a god go on public record, listening to its principles of morality must be a moral act. Quite honestly, there is at least one God I am aware of and I'm sure you are too which is on public record, and quite frankly, its moral standards are deplorable.

    With respect, my question to you is much more straightforward than your answer suggests.
    Is it moral (more moral) to do something right for the sake of it being morally right.
    Is it moral (less moral) to do something because you have been told it is right via a god for instance, even though it very well may not be morally right.

    Without needing to enter into semantics of morality, my argument is the former must always be more moral.
     
    #21     Jul 8, 2013
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I bypass the morality argument altogether. If people want to be gay, let them. If they want to engage in sexual acts with animals or vegetables or whatever, fine. Have them stay the fuck out of my life and do whatever it is they do behind their own private closed doors. There are freaks out there that do all sorts of things we're not aware of. As long as there's no influence in my life, or more importantly, my child's life, I could give a shit.
     
    #22     Jul 8, 2013
  3. pspr

    pspr

    That's the problem. They can't keep it behind closed doors. They have been let out of the closet and want to force the rest of us to acknowledge their behavior and approve of it including putting it on public display.
     
    #23     Jul 8, 2013
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Well, there lies where it should stop. Public indecency should certainly be applied to that situation. Public display, public funding, etc. all that needs to cease.
     
    #24     Jul 8, 2013
  5. Let's assume a perfect morality. A perfect God's (redundant terms) values would be congruent with that morality.

    Man's picture of God will on average always be less than perfectly accurate. So if we are using the loose, baggy, intellectually unrigorousness, and often illogical depictments of God most often available, then of course doing something moral is better than following God's will (especially when that will is not perfectly interpreted).

    God is either perfect or not. There is no other option. If we assume perfection, then his will is perfect. If we assume imperfection, then his will is imperfect.

    In the case of an imperfect God (strange juxtaposition because God as a concept is perfect, but interpretations of it are imperfect), doing something which is moral is superior to listening to God.

    I am trying not to go round and around, but I think there are some issues that are important that need to be addressed before I just respond with a simple yes or no.
     
    #25     Jul 8, 2013
  6. stu

    stu

    Ok, well, now you've addressed some "issues" , are you able to respond directly to my question.
     
    #26     Jul 9, 2013
  7. That perfectly sums up my feelings on the subject. Unfortunately, we're all supposed to bow down and pay homage to this bullshit.

    Just imagine how batshit crazy the liberal loonies would go if there were a "straight" pride parade.
     
    #27     Jul 9, 2013
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Yep. They tolerate any view they agree with, and slander any they don't.
     
    #28     Jul 9, 2013