This is what a market bottom looks like

Discussion in 'Trading' started by orbit23, Mar 19, 2020.

  1. %%
    IF I had known the market was going to close down like it did today- I would have kept more inverse ETFs.
    At the rate this market is downtrending may get to collect dividends on the inverse ETFs,?? NOT a prediction...…………………………………………………………………………………………………..
     
    #51     Mar 20, 2020
  2. trdes

    trdes


    I get it, but read what you're saying. You're basically saying the same thing I am, that if you're a trader, you need to just find the best trades you can every day in and out and that calling the tops and bottoms even if you get it perfect is just ONE trade. So, it's fine to do if you can do it, but it's just ONE trade so to spend so much effort and time on it doesn't seem like a great value proposition.

    I am only speaking in regards of trading to be consistently profitable. If you're a long term investor or you want to go super heavy / all in on your top and bottom calls that's fine, but again that has nothing to do with the consistent trading aspect.
     
    #52     Mar 21, 2020
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  3. orbit23

    orbit23


    Yeah. I just thought the bottom might've been in, but i go into the lowest timeframes and scalp off of there too, so when i'm wrong i am the first to get out.

    I might've been wrong on the timing, but i think if we ever get a bounce, it's likely to be a rally into the end of month&&quarter.

    Palm oil looks like a potential bottom, so does palladium and the sentiment is hitting extremes, while SP looks like a potential bottom too.
     
    #53     Mar 24, 2020
  4. i make millions off the calls here

    how can i repay you all?
     
    #54     Mar 24, 2020
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  5. orbit23

    orbit23

    I'll take bitcoins. 10% seems like a good deal.


    I can say with pretty high confidence now, that the bottom is in. Buy here and add if it dips slightly, hold until end of month and sell everything there.
     
    #55     Mar 24, 2020
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Orbit will covers all losses if bottom ... is not the bottom.

    You heard it here first. :)
     
    #56     Mar 24, 2020
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  7. I note for posterity, he makes this call AFTER a 2000 point Dow rally.
     
    #57     Mar 24, 2020
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  8. orbit23

    orbit23

    You are not supposed to buy the bottom, but once the bottom is in.

    Expecting massive rally to ensue in the next few days till the end of month.

    That's what a short squeeze is, just look at all the plebs on this forum so convinced markets are one-directional.

    Also by the way, i only think this is a short-term bottom. SPX will likely drop under 1000 in the next year and Russell is going down to 500. I am sorry. You will probably disagree on this too.
     
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2020
    #58     Mar 25, 2020
  9. orbit23

    orbit23

    Everyone is so quiet when the market is up. Ugh.

    Anyways my expectations going forward are, we should be only going up in the next 4 days. Today we should reach 2650, which is our first trouble area and i assume we could get a rejection there. Even if the daily pulls back in, that's completely fine, but we have to start rallying comes friday and close well. Monday and Tuesday should be big full candles to the upside.
    If a daily low is breached, the idea is off and the sell off likely to continue.

    Anyways don't get fixiated on the idea because scenarios rarely occur as anticipated in a dynamic environment. But just something to bare in mind.
     
    #59     Mar 26, 2020
  10. orbit23

    orbit23

    So far so good. Got rejection from 2650(2640). Buy towards 2400, daily lows should be holding if the premise is right.
     
    #60     Mar 27, 2020