This is not the fight we entered in Iraq

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by james_bond_3rd, Jan 23, 2007.

  1. At least he's telling the truth in this part.

    "Every one of us wishes that this war were over and won. Yet it would not be like us to leave our promises unkept, our friends abandoned, and our own security at risk."

    So the real question is, how did we get into this mess?
  2. Listen to Webb's response:

    "With respect to foreign policy, this country has patiently endured a
    mismanaged war for nearly four years. Many, including myself, warned
    even before the war began that it was unnecessary, that it would take
    our energy and attention away from the larger war against terrorism,
    and that invading and occupying Iraq would leave us strategically
    vulnerable in the most violent and turbulent corner of the world.

    I want to share with all of you a picture that I have carried with me
    for more than 50 years. This is my father, when he was a young Air
    Force captain, flying cargo planes during the Berlin Airlift. He sent
    us the picture from Germany, as we waited for him, back here at home.
    When I was a small boy, I used to take the picture to bed with me
    every night, because for more than three years my father was deployed,
    unable to live with us full-time, serving overseas or in bases where
    there was no family housing. I still keep it, to remind me of the
    sacrifices that my mother and others had to make, over and over again,
    as my father gladly served our country. I was proud to follow in his
    footsteps, serving as a Marine in Vietnam. My brother did as well,
    serving as a Marine helicopter pilot. My son has joined the
    tradition, now serving as an infantry Marine in Iraq.

    Like so many other Americans, today and throughout our history, we
    serve and have served, not for political reasons, but because we love
    our country. On the political issues - those matters of war and peace,
    and in some cases of life and death - we trusted the judgment of our
    national leaders. We hoped that they would be right, that they would
    measure with accuracy the value of our lives against the enormity of
    the national interest that might call upon us to go into harm's way.

    We owed them our loyalty, as Americans, and we gave it. But they owed
    us - sound judgment, clear thinking, concern for our welfare, a
    guarantee that the threat to our country was equal to the price we
    might be called upon to pay in defending it.

    The President took us into this war recklessly. He disregarded
    warnings from the national security adviser during the first Gulf War,
    the chief of staff of the army, two former commanding generals of the
    Central Command, whose jurisdiction includes Iraq, the director of
    operations on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many, many others with
    great integrity and long experience in national security affairs. We
    are now, as a nation, held hostage to the predictable - and predicted
    - disarray that has followed.

    The war's costs to our nation have been staggering.
    The damage to our reputation around the world.
    The lost opportunities to defeat the forces of international terrorism.
    And especially the precious blood of our citizens who have stepped
    forward to serve.

    The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is
    being fought; nor does the majority of our military. We need a new
    direction. Not one step back from the war against international
    terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility
    of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong
    regionally-based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the
    streets of Iraq's cities, and a formula that will in short order allow
    our combat forces to leave Iraq.


    As I look at Iraq, I recall the words of former general and soon-to-be
    President Dwight Eisenhower during the dark days of the Korean War,
    which had fallen into a bloody stalemate. "When comes the end?" asked
    the General who had commanded our forces in Europe during World War
    Two. And as soon as he became President, he brought the Korean War to
    an end.

    These Presidents took the right kind of action, for the benefit of the
    American people and for the health of our relations around the world.
    Tonight we are calling on this President to take similar action, in
    both areas. If he does, we will join him. If he does not, we will be
    showing him the way."
  3. This was the best part of the rebuttal.
  4. Jimmy said he didn't have time for a rebuttal. All he did was read
    what he had written beforehand which probably took him weeks to do.

    And I bet his carrying the picture bit was a complete lie. What a fake.
  5. Don't think everyone is like you. You are a "complete" liar and an idiot. You can't even stick to your own words.
  6. How did the Vietnam invasion help american exactly?

    anyone? Vietnam is still a communist country.

    What did 60,000 americans die for in that case,please help me out.
  7. We are one triple digit daily body count away from a quick exit. That is coming within the next 3 months. Neither the congress nor most of America will have the stomach for what's coming..... combat zone killing on a scale we haven't seen in decades.
  8. Last time I checked, a huge majority of Democrats voted in favor of this "reckless" war and they also didn't pay attention to those worthies who opposed it. In fairness, Webb did oppose it and he was exactly right that it would turn out to be a mess.

    The problem with Webb and the Dem's is that they don't have any better idea than Bush what to do now. Their "policy" seems to involve elements of pretending to stand up to the insurgents while we back out the door. Not very convincing.
  9. Here we go.....body count is going up, guaranteed. Ours as well as theirs. Got the stomach for it?

    WASHINGTON - President Bush has authorized U.S. forces in Iraq to take whatever actions are necessary to counter Iranian agents deemed a threat to American troops or the public at large, the White House said Friday.
    #10     Jan 26, 2007