This guy says the bull market is already starting... Where was he since 2009?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by S2007S, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. LOL; good points. 200 day moving average is a good measure; not that one daily dip means much, mostly..................................................................................ONE Chicago trader warned ''the smarter you are , the longer it takes''LOL
     
    #41     Dec 9, 2016
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Here's a question Jack Rabbit.... how would that chart look with the original components?

    The DOW doesn't like Kodak, so they put AAPL in.

    How does that work when looking at charts? Beyond me... but it would seem to indicate everything is not what it seems. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_components_of_the_Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average
     
    #42     Dec 9, 2016
  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Woolworths, Sears, Union Carbide, Navistar.... the list goes on and on
    .....but the charts goes up.
    I have no idea, just throwing this out there. When a DOW component doesn't perform... it gets replaced.
    I guess folks smarter than I know whats best.
     
    #43     Dec 9, 2016
  4. Arnie

    Arnie

    I agree. And we are just now starting to see real wage growth. That's the second shoe to drop, IMO. So much for "deflation" everyone was talking about not too long ago.
     
    #44     Dec 9, 2016
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    It's amazing that in this day and age someone would posit that bull markets don't begin until we make historical new highs. Laughable at best.--The bull market started in Mar 2009 and will soon be 8 years old if it lives a few more months +++Period+++
     
    #45     Dec 9, 2016
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    False. We even had a 20% correction in 2011. Is that not a bear market? What is your definition of a bear market? If we had a bear market in 2011 then at the very least you can't start the latest bull market until 2012. Or does that 21% selloff not count? LOL.
     
    #46     Dec 9, 2016
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    No. Support levels were not taken out in the corrections along the way. In order for a bear market to occur there must be an obvious reversal or support levels need to be taken out. Neither has happened since Mar 2009.
     
    #47     Dec 9, 2016
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  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    It's unsettling that folks think we have not been in a bull market since Mar 2009.
     
    #48     Dec 9, 2016
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  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Under your definition of bull and bear markets, there were no bull or bear markets between 1994 and 2013. The reader can well see that this assertion is preposterous. ---Your definition of bull and bear markets is incorrect.
     
    #49     Dec 10, 2016
  10. Years ago, a 20% dip in the market was not considered a "bear market". In fact, it was just "routine noise"... a "correction" on the way up.

    In bull and bear markets psychology is as much a factor as prices. "Relentlessness" in one direction. To someone hold long in a bear market, it seems the pain will never end.
     
    #50     Dec 10, 2016