They just banned short selling in US

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by nitro, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. Yes, Banning short selling will not be the signal of a bottom.

    After shorts are forced to cover, watch the market for these financials. Without shorts bidding to cover, these stocks can just dribble down day after day -- Chinese water torture for the longs of these stocks.
     
    #271     Sep 20, 2008
  2. Nitro, as the market sinks, the SEC's stupidity grows. The entire first page and a half of the Orders could have been summed up "in an effort to prevent price discovery because we don't like the prices being discovered....."

    Every options MM I know was beyond confused. Today, I heard a bunch of firms rebelled and refused to make markets at all. Don't know the legality of any of it, because I'm not a lawyer. However, it seems that the SEC couldn't hold them in breach because it breached the MM contract first by repealing their exemption. Contract law can be pretty specific. But who has time for picayune details like the Law when you're furiously pounding out an order at 3 am to burn down the house and everyone in it to save your own skin? My understanding is that options market maker restrictions are now lifted on everything but Reg Sho stocks (also dumb). Did I hear correctly?

    And...good luck wading through this giant bucket of shit the SEC has plopped us all into.
     
    #272     Sep 20, 2008
  3. If the market-fakers are given hedging exemption to short, reversals that were pricing Friday at $2 or more everywhere in that list of 797 will be a multi-gazillion dollar windfall to the market-fakers. The exemption should be granted to ANYONE that is hedging DIRECTLY correlated derivatives - more specifically listed options and SSFs. If not, the reversals will continue to price at retarded levels making it economic suicide using any of these products to hedge a long delta.
     
    #273     Sep 20, 2008
  4. Cox and his denture wearing monkey friends are about as stupid as stupid gets.
     
    #274     Sep 20, 2008


  5. can't short?

    no big deal.

    buy the inverse ETF's.
     
    #275     Sep 20, 2008
  6. Who else is shorting the shit out of financials on Oct 2nd, or whenever this expires?
     
    #276     Sep 20, 2008
  7. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    That'll be illegal soon too.
     
    #277     Sep 20, 2008
  8. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    100% chance of the stupid powers that be extending the deadline to past Oct 2nd.
     
    #278     Sep 20, 2008
  9. You don't think they'll have this cleaned up again? I'm shocked. Watch this for as long as you can stomach it.

    http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1222022373.php

    It gets worse. Watch Europe. Theirs go to Jan 16. How can we allow it, and they not? That would allow all the shorts to come here and bomb UBS, RBS, you can come up with the names. Nope. Has to be in tandem. The Western nations are working together, for a change, so look for it to continue. Everybody is plenty scared.
     
    #279     Sep 20, 2008
  10. I'm a bit confused. Did they ban short selling on financials or the market in general?
     
    #280     Sep 20, 2008