Don`t you like that women are craved by men, don`t you like the lack of government redistribution of wealth(socialism/communism)? It`s basically the law of nature, women seek a provider for themselves and their offspring, and men have usually been more productive than women.
The very first post I made in this thread, I state that the law should be broken when it is clearly a wrong law. I give an example of reading a book that has been banned as an example of breaking an unjust law. The very first settlers in the US were breaking British law when they dumped tea into the harbor.
People have a habit of applying cures that are worse than the ills they`re trying to alleviate, so why bother?
there is that pesky unclear word "clear" again. only laws that are "clearly" wrong should be broken. only drugs that are "clearly" right should be taken(777) it is all soooo CLEAR
"Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong. That is your oath." - Kingdom of Heaven http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1418789145/
We've already told you - they produce sensory pleasure. A bit of basic observation should tell you that large numbers of people enjoy sensory pleasure. You don't have to *need* something to want it. I don't need to be a better trader or to add a zero to my net worth, or to have sex a lot, but I want all those things.
Ok, I was just quoting the bit that I found puzzling, since I agree with quite a bit of what you said - I mean I'm not going to quote the whole post saying "yup. Agree with you there. Fair point nitro" I also do not recommend people to take addictive drugs, or make a habit of going whoring (let alone becoming one). But this thread is not about advice you would give to a friend, it's about what we think should be criminal under the law. That means we have to establish if it's not just undesirable, but sufficiently bad that criminalising it is necessary, and that the latter will actually work and achieve the ends wanted, rather than prove counterproductive. No one is saying "Yeah man - we should all shoot up, go whoring, be mindless hedonists and have a great life". They are just saying that maybe it's highly immoral to jail someone for 20 years for smoking a joint, or falling into hard drug addiction. Maybe, just maybe, people like Rearden Metal have/had a medical addiction issue, rather than being hardened criminals who need to be jailed for half their remaining years on planet earth. Basically you are discussing what you would like to happen. The rest of us are discussing whether a particular law is right or wrong, and whether it is counterproductive. Big difference - I don't approve of healthy young people committing suicide or anyone becoming an alcoholic, but I don't think that has any bearing on whether suicide or boozing should be crimes.
Has anyone addressed this question? I've never heard it addressed, and would be anxious to hear anyone's opinion on the matter.