There you have it!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wjk, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. And what about the uneducable and the health bill we are presented with?
     
    #21     Mar 25, 2013
  2. Our genius Founders thought otherwise. They were ADAMANTLY against our ever having a large and powerful Federal Government... even tried to write the Constitution and Bill of Rights so that such government would be impossible... Yet, here we are... ?? :( :(
     
    #22     Mar 25, 2013
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    But they were not opposed to ALL government. So it follows that even they thought, under some circumstances, government is the better solution.
     
    #23     Mar 25, 2013
  4. pspr

    pspr

    They spelled it out, for the common defense, etc. Anything not spelled out in the Constitution the federal government was supposed to stay out of.

    Politicians have manipulated the meanings of several clauses to circumvent that restriction and convinced the courts to go along with them. The Interstate Commerce clause is one that has routinely been exploited.
     
    #24     Mar 25, 2013
  5. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    And what you typed should be the headline of the nightly news. Will it be? Don't think so. The MSM is NO QUESTION an enemy to the US with their sick love affair with Onazi and his Communist buddies. This tyrannical gubment's $$$$$$$$ talks, and sadly, we're seeing the results unfold before our eyes.

    I've gotta say, if I were a demoNazi, I'd do the same thing. Give the sheeple a little something, then take MUCH more away from them before they're sheared.:mad:
     
    #25     Mar 25, 2013
  6. Good laws are not an infringement of anyone's freedom. To say "you can't commit murder", is not violating anyone's freedom because murder itself is an 'infringement' on another person's freedom. On the flip side, saying "you can't smoke that blunt", or "you can't drink that soda", or "you can't sell your vag", IS an infringement on the freedom of those individuals. The phrase "Your freedom ends where the next person's begins" or however it goes, is a good test for any law imo.
     
    #26     Mar 25, 2013
  7. +1

    Absolutely right, and no matter how it gets 'interpreted' today, 200+ years later, if they meant for it to be that way, it wouldn't have taken this long for us to know. lol

    "On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." - Thomas Jefferson
     
    #27     Mar 25, 2013
  8. pspr

    pspr

    If one could only tattoo that quote on the foreheads of each Supreme Court Justice.
     
    #28     Mar 25, 2013
  9. I have no faith in the SC at all. They've allowed SS, Medicare, numerous social programs, and now obamacare to become law. The federal govt has no authority to be running any of these things, not to mention, forcing compliance.
     
    #29     Mar 25, 2013

  10. You know wjk, you are a reasoned fellow. Does gov always know best.

    Yes.

    Gov is a collection of the people it governs in a democratic society.

    If the gov does something, and the people accede to it, then that is what the people want. No?
     
    #30     Mar 25, 2013