There will be no Fed rate cut

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Bob Rowshan, Sep 10, 2007.

Will the Fed cut rates next week?

  1. Yes they will cut

    148 vote(s)
    59.7%
  2. No they won't cut

    100 vote(s)
    40.3%
  1. But are the expected returns higher?

    :p
     
    #181     Sep 18, 2007
  2. kashirin

    kashirin

    basis how do you count?
    sep trades now at 94.995
    0% 50 bp
    98% 25 bp
    2% 0 bp
     
    #182     Sep 18, 2007
  3. dhpar

    dhpar

    the price is a future price based on all days in september - it is not based on the ff target at the end of Sep. learn the contract specs.
     
    #183     Sep 18, 2007
  4. S2007S

    S2007S

    There should be no rate cut but of course we all know there will be a 25 BP cut. If there is no rate cut today DOW 13250 will surely be here by 4pm today.


    The crying bulls are hoping for something. Only catalyst left for them is a rate cut.
     
    #184     Sep 18, 2007
  5. I still think it's completely insane to cut with oil and gold prices at new records, with the market skirting it's highs.

    Total madness.
     
    #185     Sep 18, 2007
  6. basis

    basis

    Sep settles into the AVERAGE EFFECTIVE OVERNIGHT rate. The target has nothing to do with actual settlement. So far in September we have 17/30 days with an average rate of 5.06. The implied average rate for the month from the futures price is 5.01 (assuming 94.99 last).

    5.01 = (rest of month rate * (13/30)) + (5.06 * (17/30))

    rest of month rate = 4.945

    Assuming no tracking error, and that only a 25bps or a 50 bps cut are possible, that's basically a 20% chance of 50 bps, and an 80% chance of 25 bps.

    October is a better month to look at... but then you have to start assigning probabilities to an intermeeting cut....
     
    #186     Sep 18, 2007
  7. And the crooked wall street bankers have been bailed out again.
     
    #187     Sep 18, 2007
  8. Do u feel like a douchebag now?? You should. Never say never.
     
    #188     Sep 18, 2007
  9. Babak

    Babak

    Not difficult to see this coming. There was a 100% chance of a 25 bp cut and a 75% chance of a 50 bp cut (FF futures market).

    As I said before, the bond market was the "tell" and it was screaming for a 50 bp cut.

    Check out the long term chart of the Fed rate and the 90 T-bill rate to see how the fixed income market leads the Fed by the nose.
     
    #189     Sep 18, 2007
  10. More after-the-fact analysis from the resident ET buffoon.
     
    #190     Sep 18, 2007