There will be no Fed rate cut

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Bob Rowshan, Sep 10, 2007.

Will the Fed cut rates next week?

  1. Yes they will cut

    148 vote(s)
    59.7%
  2. No they won't cut

    100 vote(s)
    40.3%
  1. The industry (according to FF futures) is 50/50 on whether the cut will be a 25 bps cut or a 50 bps cut, but the consensus is fed will cut. What we have here is different, 40% thinks fed will not cut, and 60% thinks fed will cut.

    I'm certain that fed will cut because the bond market has only ever been wrong once, the odds of that happening again are simply too slim.

    I think there are too many pikers who are betting on a fed pause, its akin to betting on the lottery, low probability with high returns, typical gamblers' mentality.
     
    #171     Sep 18, 2007
  2. kashirin

    kashirin

    People here are not gamblers. We just want to have a free market as Larry Kudlow has declared. As we won't have access to bail out money and we won't benefit from inflation which will eat our trading money. So from the free market point Fed must not cut and probably must raise

    The industry from the other hand has direct access to the money Fed prints
    So they definitely want 50 bp cut or better 500 bp cut
    So poll here and industry thoughts - those are just wishes not the consensus

    Consensus is FF
    And Fed Futures are at 95 now that gives just 100% of 25 bp cut
    and 0% chance of 50 bp cut
     
    #172     Sep 18, 2007
  3. MTE

    MTE

    Well, what stops it from being wrong twice?:D
     
    #173     Sep 18, 2007
  4. dhpar

    dhpar

    remember that effective rate up to today is about 5.07 so the probability of 50bps cut as implied by FF is actually higher. it is better to look at Oct.
    50bps should not happen though.
     
    #174     Sep 18, 2007
  5. Unfortunately, this is how crooked wall street works, central bankers have bailed out wall street bankers many times before and they will do it again because they cant afford to have banks fail.

    Consensus is a 50/50 chance on a 25bps cut or 50 bps cut, you should be looking at the Oct contract, the Sept contract has expired.
     
    #175     Sep 18, 2007
  6. Nothing, but the odds of that happening is extremely low. I'd very much rather bet on the lottery.
     
    #176     Sep 18, 2007
  7. MTE

    MTE

    See, with that I disagree, I think the odds are a lot better than in lottery!
     
    #177     Sep 18, 2007
  8. kashirin

    kashirin

    Interesting - I traded Sep contract today.
    IB shows it expires Sep 28

    Maybe you should check dates before posting?
    It might cost you a lot
     
    #178     Sep 18, 2007
  9. basis

    basis

    Sep still trades. And it's saying roughly 40% chance of 50 bps. October is slightly higher than that, because of the chance of an intermeeting cut.
     
    #179     Sep 18, 2007
  10. Yea my bad, I was looking at the Aug contract. Nevetheless the Oct contract still shows a 50% chance of a 0.5% cut by the next meeting.

    I wont have any positions open before the fed statement/decision is released, so its not going to cost me anything.
     
    #180     Sep 18, 2007