Theological discusssion

Discussion in 'Politics' started by morganist, Jun 16, 2011.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    No, imo, He'd say the same thing as Anthony Flew, Alister McGrath and many many more Christian/Deists Scientists in that Science can not disprove the existence of God and should not be used as a platform to try.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alister_McGrath
     
    #91     Jun 21, 2011
  2. #92     Jun 21, 2011
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    Glad you clarified your belief. So, the scientific worldview is a choice, thus it is no more true than other worldviews, unless we restrict ourselves to science's definition of truth which, fortunately, we don't have to (and billions don't want to).
     
    #93     Jun 21, 2011
  4. stu

    stu

    But science is not used as such a platform. For one thing science does not deal in pure speculation without verifiable corroboration. That’s what religion’s for.
    Though theists and religious believers here in this thread would use science as a platform for religion if they could.

    Using quite ridiculous nonsensical argument, trying to drag religion toward science by suggesting that in the end, science is only belief , or science can't be validated higher than people therefore absurdly inferring it's on a par with science.

    You have however showed how the point stands. Science and religion will remain separate, incompatible. Not on the same platform.
    They reach entirely different conclusions by completely different means. Science essentially is rational. Religion not.

    You can't start to determine scientifically the non existence of something like God when that something is not testable or even defined properly.
    That's where religion, make believe, pretence, runaway imagination, is useful for creating such concepts.
    But they can't be tested, and as it is for fairies and all other sorts of supernatural things, God definitions change at every turn.

    It's just not science.
     
    #94     Jun 21, 2011
  5. stu

    stu

    It's not my belief, you're misinformed.
    If you describe science as a worldview of course it's more true than others. It's the scientific method that discovers confirms and establishes fact.
    You don't want to believe true science? Then fine, be that ridiculous, your prerogative.

    You are of course entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.
     
    #95     Jun 21, 2011
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    No, it isn't, because what is "true" is debatable.
     
    #96     Jun 21, 2011
  7. Wow, I really like that quote! It really sums up the world debate on the existence of God!
     
    #97     Jun 21, 2011
  8. another similar one

    If we were made in god's image why aren't we invisible too?
     
    #98     Jun 22, 2011
  9. how about this one:

    Justin Brown If the Bible is mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust it to tell us where we're going?
     
    #99     Jun 22, 2011
  10. stu

    stu

    If what's true is debatable, why are you calling it true in the first place.
     
    #100     Jun 22, 2011