Theft of our Nation!

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by AMT4SWA, Nov 11, 2008.

  1. #21     Nov 15, 2008
  2. achilles28

    achilles28

    People don't conspire for money or power.

    They just consolidate money and power.

    Thats how oligarchies maintain inflated prices without conspiring.
     
    #22     Nov 15, 2008
  3. jprad

    jprad

    I agree, but only back when the coin of the realm was gold or silver.

    Consolidating anything requires a plan, and the plan is pointless unless you build it to last.

    We're in the age of fiat money and it looks to have lasted about 100 years.

    Not too long.

    If those who built this system understood the exponential function they would have built in measures to prevent it from collapse.
     
    #23     Nov 15, 2008
  4. Not really. Perhaps you clicked on a site listing inventors of life-saving medical advances by mistake?
     
    #24     Nov 15, 2008
  5. achilles28

    achilles28

    No, they designed it too collapse

    Thats why its a debt money system.

    Total outstanding debts (public and private) grow parabolic while the productive capacity (GDP) required to pay those debts back grow incremental.

    As time marches on, a greater and greater % of GDP is consumed just to pay the debt interest until finally, the Country defaults and the Creditors (Banks, who issued debt from nothing), take the Collateral - US, the United States of America.

    Another way to consider it.

    The total amount of all outstanding debts - public and private - is somewhere around 60 Trillion dollars.

    At 5% interest, 3 Trillion dollars a year is required to pay just the Interest on that Debt.

    Now, that comes from Income Tax, and also from the disposable income of households and earnings of Corporations.

    The crux is total Money Supply (not M3), but total DEBT, grows at 3 to 10 Trillion dollars a year. Yet GDP, only 300 to 500 Billion a year.

    That creates a widening shortfall of increasing velocity until the System Collapses - we hyper-inflate, everyone goes broke-ass broke, and the Banks foreclose on the Country.

    Its a mathematical certainty. And the Key Reason why debt-money was chosen to begin with. A Slow Motion Logic Bomb that delivers entire Countries into the Hands of a Few...Legally.

    As for spontaneous Oligarchies. Modern-day oil companies are a great example.

    Crude drops from 150 to 60, and prices at the pump drop less than 20%. Sticky prices. Because there's no competition to keep them honest.

    Unions are another form of Oligarchie. Create aritificial scarcity of employees by mandated membership, and wages go up (f'ing consumers).

    After Katrina, internal memos were leaked from US Oil Refiners to shut-down working production. Artificial scarcity to jack prices.

    This free-market stuff isn't a smoky room plot to defraud the public. Although, the participants know they're defrauding the public.

    On the other hand, the FED Engineers - that WAS and IS a conspiracy of the highest magnitude. And its not even a "conspiracy" per se. All the information pertaining to its creation, logic and ownership are in the public record.

    The real conspiracy is one of Silence, on the part of Media and Government who are willful accomplices to this debacle.
     
    #25     Nov 15, 2008
  6. jprad

    jprad

    Uh, that's exactly the problem, it's an exponential function.

    You don't realize there's a problem until you're in the vertical part of the curve.

    Best way I had it explained to me was this:

    Assume you have some container that's entirely empty save for a single one-celled organism that replicates by division once every minute.

    Now, assume it's going to take 24 hours to completely fill the container and this process starts at 12:01am

    So, working back from 12 midnight the percentage of the container that's full is:

    12:00 100
    11:59 50
    11:58 25
    11:57 12.5
    11:56 6.25
    11:55 3.125
    11:54 1.0625
    11:53 0.53125
     
    #26     Nov 15, 2008
  7. achilles28

    achilles28

    You just said the architects of debt-money were ignorant to its ultimate end effect, right there.

    I'm saying no. They knew it beforehand. Thats why they chose it.
     
    #27     Nov 15, 2008