the world ends 153 days after 5/21/2011

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by TraderZones, May 12, 2009.


  1. According to Harold Camping (Family Radio), the world ends 153 days after May 21, 2011. (May 21 is when the true believers are taken into heaven). During the period of 153 days, the remaining inhabitants are subjected to severe catastrophes from the wrath of God, prior to being condemned.

    Problems:
    1) The Bible says no one knows the day or hour, not even the Son. That is what "a thief in the night" is about. Camping however claims that the Bible does predict the time, and the Bible does say that as the time draws near, there would be signs of this.

    2) Camping predicted something similar for 1994 (although he also said it could be 2011 then), and it did not work according to his understanding

    3) Others have done this; the Jehovah's Witnesses and several other organizations were wrong on several prediction dates for the second coming of Christ.


    Interesting:
    1) The Mayans appear to have predicted the end of the world in 2012

    2) The biblical date for the Messiah "to be cut off" was accurate, as detailed in the following (there are many versions of this on the web):

    Daniel 9:24-27 is a key Biblical passage. It is the only Old Testament passage which refers to the Messiah as “Messiah.” Elsewhere He is called “Shiloh” (Genesis 49:10), the “Root of Jesse” (Isaiah 11:10), the “Righteous Branch” (Jeremiah 23:5), the “Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6), etc. But the name by which He is known best, “Messiah,” appears in only one passage: Daniel 9:24-27. Here is an excerpt from that passage:

    "Seventy sevens have been decreed for your people. . . . So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven sevens and sixty-two sevens; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress. Then after the sixty-two sevens the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.”

    Exactly what is meant by “seventy sevens”? The phrase by itself is ambiguous, but taken in context the meaning is clear. Daniel’s prayer in verses 3-19 of the chapter refers to the fulfillment of a specific seventy-year period, the seventy years of the Babylonian captivity (as prophesied by Jeremiah). Daniel received the seventy sevens prophecy in response to his prayer. The prophecy foretold a period of seven times seventy yet to come, or seventy seven-year periods. Seventy seven-year periods equals 490 years.

    The prophecy goes on to say that “from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven sevens (49) and sixty-two sevens (434). . . . Then after the sixty-two sevens the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing.”

    Nebuchadnezzar had Jerusalem dismantled around 587 BC after having to put down two rebellions there in less than 10 years. At the time this prophecy was given, Jerusalem still lay in ruins. According to the prophecy, from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem there would be seven seven-year periods and sixty-two more seven-year periods—or 483 years—until the Messiah would show up. After the culmination of the 62 seven-year periods, or after 483rd year, the Messiah would be cut off.

    Both the ancient Hebrews to whom Daniel was writing and the ancient Babylonians to whom he was subservient (Daniel supposedly having been written in Babylon during the latter half of the 6th century BC) used a 360-day year.

    So, 483 years x 360 days = 173,880 days. This is the equivalent of 476 years and 25 days using our modern Gregorian calendar’s 365.24219879-day year.

    As for our starting point, the Persian Emperor Artaxerxes Longimanus (who ruled Persia from 464-424 BC) issued the edict to rebuild Jerusalem sometime during the Hebrew month of Nisan in the 20th year of his reign, or 444 BC (Nehemiah 2:1-8). The month of Nisan fell between February 27 (Nisan 1) and March 28 (Nisan 30) of that year according to our modern Gregorian calendar.

    Now, 173,880 days from February 27 - March 28, 444 BC, lands us at March 24 - April 22, AD 33.

    According to this prophecy, the Messiah would show up, present Himself as Messiah to the nation and then be “cut off” some time between March 24 and April 22, AD 33. Jesus Christ presented Himself to the nation of Israel on Palm Sunday, March 27, was crucified four days later on April 1, or “Preparation Day” (the annual day on which the Passover Lamb was slain), and rose from the dead on Sunday, April 3, AD 33, all within our 30-day range of dates.

    The prophecy then goes on to say that subsequent to the Messiah being “cut off,” “the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary.” Within one generation of Christ’s crucifixion, Titus razed Jerusalem and destroyed the temple.

    There is some debate about the exact date of the decree that began the 483 years. There is also debate as to whether the days should be counted on our modern 365-day calendars, or the 360-day lunar calendar that was normally used in ancient times. Whichever the case, Daniel's prophecy concludes very close to the time Jesus Christ was being crucified in Jerusalem. If we knew all the exact dates of Daniel's prophecy and timing, we would find it would land exactly on the very day of Christ's death. Through God revealing it to him, the Prophet Daniel predicted the very day of Christ's death—over 400 years before it occurred.

     
  2. Was Al Gore there?
     
  3. He was worried about the Global warming impact of Fire and Brimstone. Wanted God to buy CO2 credits...

    :D
     
  4. the real danger from religion is what it does to the mind of those who believe it.

    Robert G. Ingersoll "The inspiration of the bible depends on the ignorance of the person who reads it"
     
  5. dsq

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    Brilliant.

    Wasnt it 'influence' ,not 'inspiration' ?
     
  6. Well put. Sure doesn't hurt the wallets of their leaders though.
    So repulsive to have to witness when I surf past their televangelists. Its no wonder the right targets their vote.
     
  7. December 2012 is not the end of the world......it will merely be a "transitional" year. :)