The Wisconsin Audit

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buy1Sell2, May 19, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's fact check some more nonsense being pushed by Wisconsin GOP frauditers...

    Fact check: Wisconsin voters listed as registering in 1918 due to records merge, not fraud
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-1918-registration-due-file-merge/9240480002/

    The claim: Wisconsin's voter rolls have over 120,000 active voters who have been registered to vote for more than 100 years
    Social media users are claiming thousands of voters more than 100 years old are still voting in Wisconsin elections – and swaying their outcomes.

    "The Wisconsin voter roll has over 120,000 active voters who have been registered to vote for over 100 years," Ivory Hecker, a former reporter for a Fox affiliate in Houston, said in a Jan. 7 Facebook video. "The margin of victory is 20,000. Yes that’s right: Biden beat Trump by 21,000 votes yet there are over 120,000 people in Wisconsin who are more than 100 years old and they are voters."

    The video accumulated more than 79,000 shares within three weeks. The claim is also promoted in an update to a Jan. 21 article from the Gateway Pundit, a conservative website that has previously published misinformation about election fraud. It received more than 6,000 interactions on Facebook, according to the social media analytics tool CrowdTangle.

    It's true that Wisconsin's voter rolls include about 120,000 voters who are listed as having registered more than a century ago. But it's the result of a records merge explained on the website of state election officials – not evidence of election fraud or any other wrongdoing.

    USA TODAY reached out to the Facebook user and the Gateway Pundit for comment.

    Data don't indicate wrongdoing
    Though Hecker's video frames the figures as potential wrongdoing, they have a much simpler and less nefarious explanation, according to the Wisconsin Elections Commission.

    The Help America Vote Act of 2002 required statewide voter registration in all states with a population greater than 500,000, according to the commission's website. But some municipalities' systems did not track voters' birth or registration dates prior to the passage of the law.

    So when data from local municipalities on all those voters was rolled into the new statewide database, they were given default birth and registration dates: Jan. 1, 1900, for the former, and Jan. 1, 1918, for the latter.

    Fact check:False claim that Wisconsin legislators voted to withdraw 2020 electoral votes for Joe Biden

    Wisconsin has about 3,700 active voter records with the default birth date and 120,000 records with the default voter registration date, according to the state's elections website.

    That lines up with the figures cited in Hecker's video.

    Jeff O'Donnell, a "professional software and database engineer" who completed the analysis cited in the Gateway Pundit article making the same claim, told USA TODAY he analyzed Wisconsin voter roll files supplied by the state in mid-2021. His analysis found 119,282 active voters whose registration dates were Jan. 1, 1918. Of those voters, 115,252 were listed as having actually cast ballots, according to O'Donnell's analysis. This falls in line with the state's data and explanation, as well.

    Hecker also claims in the video that Wisconsin had an active voter turnout of 93.7%. That's false, a miscalculation likely based on a failure to account for the many voters that registered on Election Day in Wisconsin. In reality, about 76% of eligible voters voted in November 2020 – the fourth-highest figure in the country, according to the U.S. Elections Project.

    There's no evidence widespread voter fraud affected the outcome of the 2020 election in Wisconsin. USA TODAY has debunked numerous claims about voter fraud nationwide and in Wisconsin.

    Fact check:How we know the 2020 election results were legitimate, not 'rigged' as Donald Trump claims

    Our rating: False
    Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that Wisconsin's voter rolls have over 120,000 active voters who have been registered to vote for more than 100 years. There are 120,000 voters with a 1918 registration date, but they haven't been registered that long. That date was assigned as a default value when local voter rolls were merged into a single statewide database, since not all local clerks had tracked voters' birthdates.
     
    #41     Feb 4, 2022
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Why The Wall Street Journal Is Wrong About The 2020 Election
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/28/why-the-wall-street-journal-is-wrong-about-the-2020-election/
    The WSJ then opines “the stolen-election theory doesn’t hold up [according to the WILL Report]. President Biden won Wisconsin by 20,682 votes, and mass fraud would likely have resulted in some discernible anomaly.” But this is a perfect example of the “red herring” fallacy. The problem is not “mass voter fraud,” but a very “discernible anomaly” involving a highly coordinated and privately funded “shadow campaign” for Biden that took place within the formal structure of the election system--
    By injecting more than $419 million of Mark Zuckerberg’s money, laundered through the CTCL and the Center for Election Innovation and Research (CEIR), the professional left presided over a targeted, historically unprecedented takeover of government election offices by demonstrably ideological activists and nonprofit organizations in key areas of these swing states. Nothing like this has happened in at least the last 150 years of American elections.--
    ---excess Biden votes (over Hillary Clinton in 2016) in Brown, Dane, and Milwaukee counties alone were more than 83,000, only about 13,000 of which (at most) can be attributed to population growth or general statewide increases in voter turnout. Are we expected to believe that the effect of CTCL’s $4.79 million spending on Biden’s vote totals in Madison and Milwaukee was “41 votes on average (which would amount to 82 votes in total),” when between Dane (Madison) and Milwaukee counties Biden beat Trump by 364,372 votes? Obviously not.

    These two counties alone were responsible for more than 15 times Biden’s margin of victory in Wisconsin, which means Trump won the vote in non-CTCL funded counties by well more than 300,000 votes.

    Without CTCL involvement in Wisconsin in 2020, Wisconsin would be a solidly red state. We estimate that CTCL’s investment in seven Wisconsin counties resulted in 65,222 votes for Biden that would not have occurred in CTCL’s absence. That’s more than three times as big as the final 20,800-vote margin between Biden and Trump in 2002. That CTCL-funded election interference so obviously flipped Wisconsin for Biden in 2020 is not merely “troubling,” as WILL alleges. It is outrageous.
     
    #42     Feb 4, 2022
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #43     Feb 10, 2022
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    This Trumper clown, Michael Gableman, who has pushed endless false voting fraud claims is back to trying to lock up local officials again who have committed no crime. Simply absurd.


    Wisconsin Republicans seek to jail more officials as part of their review of the 2020 presidential election
    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...2020-presidential-election-review/6853176001/

    MADISON – Assembly Republicans sought Friday to jail the chairwoman of the state Elections Commission, Racine’s mayor and other officials as part of their months-long review of the 2020 presidential election.

    The court filing marked the latest shift in approach for Michael Gableman, a former state Supreme Court justice who is leading the review for the Republicans. Three days ago, he abandoned far-reaching subpoenas he issued in January to the immigrant rights group Voces de la Frontera Action.

    A month ago an attorney working with Gableman told a judge he was hoping to avoid trying to jail the mayors of Madison and Green Bay.

    But on Friday Gableman intensified his efforts, telling Waukesha County Circuit Judge Ralph Ramirez he should incarcerate those mayors and others if they don’t sit for interviews with him behind closed doors.

    The officials have said they are willing to talk to Gableman but don’t believe he should be able to do so out of the view of the public. They argue the interviews should be conducted before a legislative committee.

    Joe Biden beat Donald Trump by nearly 21,000 votes in Wisconsin. Recounts and court rulings confirmed Biden’s win. A legislative audit and a study by a conservative group found no evidence of significant fraud.

    Republican lawmakers have said they launched their review because they still have questions about the election.

    Gableman’s latest filing targeted Ann Jacobs, the Democratic chairwoman of the bipartisan Elections Commission; Satya Rhodes-Conway, the mayor of Madison; Eric Genrich, the mayor of Green Bay; Cory Mason, the mayor of Racine; the city clerks of Madison and Green Bay; two Milwaukee workers; and information technology employees for the Elections Commission and the state Department of Administration.

    Rhodes-Conway in a statement said Gableman's review had "gone off the rails" because he has expanded his effort to jail officials after saying he was trying to avoid doing so.

    "It's an awfully bold move for someone we don't even know is authorized to conduct an investigation," her statement said.

    Gableman initiated his lawsuit in November and amended it on Friday. Ramirez has scheduled a hearing for April to help him determine how far Gableman’s powers go.

    Gableman’s authority is being tested in a lawsuit in Dane County brought by Democratic Attorney General Josh Kaul. Kaul represents the Elections Commission and other state officials.

    Dane County Circuit Judge Rhonda Lanford in January declined to immediately block subpoenas Gableman issued to the Elections Commission, saying she would decide later whether they are valid.

    Voces intervened in that lawsuit after it received subpoenas from Gableman. Once that happened, Gableman backed off and withdrew the subpoenas.

    Gableman has been working at the direction of Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, a Republican from Rochester. Vos has given Gableman a taxpayer-funded budget of $676,000.

    Vos on Friday said on WISN-AM (1130) that Gableman has issued more than 100 subpoenas. Dozens of those subpoenas have never been made public.

    Vos this week said he expected Gableman to publish a report this month. Gableman’s work was initially supposed to be complete by last fall.

    The litigation over Gableman's work is likely to take months to resolve. Taxpayers are covering much of that legal work.
     
    #44     Feb 19, 2022
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The circus continues in Wisconsin as the GOP pushes their fake "voting fraud" nonsense, try to decertify a previous election, and intend to arrest local officials who stand behind the election results.

    ‘Illegal and unconstitutional’: GOP scheme to decertify the election slammed by Wisconsin AG
    https://www.rawstory.com/illegal-an...g-slams-gop-scheme-to-decertify-the-election/

    Wisconsin state Rep. Timothy Ramthun was harshly criticized on Monday for his "illegal and unconstitutional" efforts to decertify the state's 2020 presidential election.

    Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul (D) was interviewed by CNN's John Berman about the decertification effort pushed by Ramthun as he seeks the GOP nomination for governor.

    "Is that even possible?" Berman asked of decertifying the election.

    "It's not possible," Kaul replied. "It's illegal and unconstitutional."

    "And what it is, is the end of this more than a year now of the 'big lie.' We have seen some Republicans in Wisconsin cynically try to use that to their advantage to conduct this Gableman investigation," he explained. "And what had been simmering is now boiling over and some people are demanding the election be decertified."

    The Gableman investigation is being led by former state Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman and was authorized by Republicans in the state legislature. The investigation has not presented any evidence of fraud, but has threatened to jail local elected officals.

    "It's really concerning for the health of our democracy," Kaul said.

    Watch:

    (Video at above url)
     
    #45     Feb 22, 2022
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's see what the Trumper idiot in charge of the "Wisconsin voting review" is calling for. Even his own party is telling him he is wrong.

    In report, Gableman calls for impossible: To take a ‘hard look’ at decertifying Wisconsin election
    https://www.channel3000.com/in-repo...hard-look-at-decertifying-wisconsin-election/

    MADISON, Wis. — In a public hearing underway Tuesday, former Wisconsin supreme court justice Michael Gableman called for a “hard look” at decertifying the election in Wisconsin–something state legislature attorneys and Republican leadership have called a legally impossible act.

    Assembly Speaker Robin Vos (R-Racine) hired Gableman to lead a taxpayer-funded $676,000 review of the 2020 election in Wisconsin, despite multiple lawsuits, reviews and recounts upholding the election’s results.

    Vos’ office was not immediately available to comment on Gableman’s call for considering decertification. In an appendix to the report, Gableman claimed it was legally possible to decertify an election in Wisconsin, saying Wisconsin election law neither authorizes nor prohibits it. In a tweet, Assembly majority leader Jim Steineke (R-Kaukauna) called it a “fools errand.”

    “Still not legal under Wisconsin law,” he tweeted. ‘Beyond that, it would have no practical impact b/c there is no Constitutional way to remove a sitting president other than through impeachment or incapacity. Fools errand. Focus on the future.”

    In his 136-page report released minutes before the Assembly Campaigns and Elections Committee hearing he was set to testify at, he said he was recommending the legislature look at decertification but that “the purpose of this Report is not to challenge certification of the Presidential election…any decisions in that vein must be made by the elected representatives of the people.”

    The legally impossible attempt to decertify has become the core gubernatorial candidate platform for Rep. Timothy Ramthun (R-Kewaskum), who recently announced a run for governor with backing from MyPillow CEO and election conspiracy theorist Mike Lindell.

    Wisconsin Elections Commission chair, Ann Jacobs–one of three Democrat commissioners who sit on the six-member bipartisan board–called it a crazy conspiracy theory.



    In the report, Gableman called for a political rather than bipartisan body to certify Wisconsin electors, writing that certification should not be subject to the “whim of the courts”.

    “In the event of widespread contest, the thumb should be on the scale in favor of withholding certification of electors,” he wrote.

    “This is a shocking recommendation,” Jacobs tweeted. “Phrased another way – it recommends that the popular vote in Wisconsin be merely advisory. And could/would be overridden by a partisan legislature.”

    Steineke, who has announced that he will not be running for reelection, said that he would spend the last ten months of his term guaranteeing he would not be involved in any attempt to take partisan control of elections.

    “In a world where partisan divides are deep & seemingly anything can be justified as long as it results in retaining power, handing authority to partisan politicians to determine if election fraud exists would be the end of our republic as we know it,” Steineke tweeted.

    In his testimony before the Assembly Campaigns and Elections Committee, Gableman also called for the dismantling of the Wisconsin Elections Commission, established by the Republican-led legislature in 2015 after they dismantled the bipartisan Government Accountability Board.

    In a 136-page, 13-chapter “interim” final report, Gableman recommended minimizing “pre voting” and election clerks participating in “Get out the vote” activities, claiming those activities are partisan.

    He also made unverified claims that “non citizens” voted in the election, which Jacobs tweeted was “completely devoid of facts or proof.”

    Gableman indicated in his testimony that the report was to be considered “final” but that his office of special counsel would continue investigating the elections. Vos gave him a deadline of December 2021–and then the end of February 2022–to finish his report.

    He couldn’t directly answer Rep. Mark Spreitzer (D-Beloit) when asked about whether he had an active contract to continue his work, which expired at the end of December. Gableman said he was talking in “good faith” with Speaker Vos about a contract extension.

    “I believe that I do have a legally enforceable contract. Others would say that it ran out at the end of December,” he responded.

    Gableman said in his report that he has issued 76 subpoenas seeking to force election officials, staffers, and other public officials to testify in secret, or seeking data from private companies. Lawsuits are still ongoing for some of those subpoenas, with WEC’s chief elections official Meagan Wolfe still not having submitted to private interviews in Gableman’s probe, saying–along with other public officials–that they wanted testimony to occur in public.

    President Joe Biden won the statewide election by about 20,000 votes in the state of Wisconsin, and both nonpartisan and partisan reviews of the election–including one from the conservative legal group Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty–have found no evidence of widespread fraud.
     
    #46     Mar 1, 2022
  7. Mercor

    Mercor

    Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and maybe Illinois Governorships will flip this fall and these states will get back to the rule of law for elections
     
    #47     Mar 1, 2022
  8. elderado

    elderado

  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #49     Mar 1, 2022
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I am hopeful of this as well, however, there were Republican gubners in states like AZ and GA and they did nothing to get to the bottom of what happened in 2020.
     
    #50     Mar 2, 2022