Yes. I believe, or have believed that there is a gOd beyond GoD. That gOd makes this world. It exists soley by fiat of belief...of my belief. What I'm saying is, this has already been tried. If you want to go beyond *Our Father* this is what you get. In this sense, I stand, or have stood on the same ground as Bickz. The difference is I no longer consider it sacred ground, understanding how it is constructed. If I am a man, or if I have been a man, I have believed in such gOd...as my "father". That is why I have had the experience of manhood. This is the first time you have asked me this question, so who is being dishonest? If you are able to find inconsistency in my words, you would be doing me a favor. I don't recall you have done me any such favor thus far. Care to help? Jesus
==================== Good points about liberals attack, Otkin; Biden a person of Bible faith?????? He butchers babes,. by crooked law. Wonder if that means Sen Biden believes Rush Limbaugh has a right to disagree, we will see. I use the word Christian ,not as a political smokescreen/deception, like some do ; but the Bible kind of Christian, who walks the talk. a]I remember distinctly the media attacking Sarah's faith; specifics, & I am talking about her Bible faith/prolife walk.Its the walk, more than the talk. they attack. Talk is cheap b]While not all Christians believe the old testament wars are good examples, for modern warfare. many do;Charles Gibson attacked her on that calling that Bush doctrine. No Charlie that is Bible doctrine. C] A big one, they have attacked her because she doesnt believe the gov is GOD; tha. is another reason. I am BEARISH, NOT JUST PRICE ACTION. Watch the news, let us see what happens when lamebrain liberals/voters make a god out of gov. God gave Noah a rainbow sign ; not just water , but fire next time. ========================== D[They attacked Govornor Sarah on ''executive experience,'' simply because she had so much more of it than Sen Biden or Sen B Hussein .
Good news! Your mind is capable of more than just spreading viral memes that would kill anyone who caught them. Hallelujah! Jesus
My brother, let us exercise caution when quoting the bible, for it is truly a psychic minefield. Only a small minority of quotes attributed to me are authentic, or lend themselves to the original meaning. Of those that are authentic, virtually none are understood, and have lost their meaning because of the context in which they are couched. The bible, like the world, is the product of a mind in conflict with itself, contradicting itself, and requires the wise one to step carefully. Sure enough, my "death" parody does not accomplish anything directly in terms of either karma or atonement. It is merely a prequel...a 'set-up' for the resurrection "proof". The resurrection was my contribution to the atonement. (You have your contribution too, when you are ready to fulfill it.) The crucifixion is helpful only in the sense that it is understood as a teaching device that points to the nasty, albeit untrue, genesis of this world. The world would prove that the Son of God can be imprisoned, tortured, crucified. But in truth, the Son of God cannot be crucified. And whatever effects it seems to establish (death), are a moot point, nil, without cause, unjustified, untrue, unreal, and without any real effect. The resurrection basically says: "I have not been hurt, so those who seemed to be implicated in my crucifixion are not guilty". This becomes a contribution to the atonement [reunification of the Son of God] when you are willing to understand that what ordeals befell me as the symbol of the Son of God, point to the truth about the Son of God...about his one mind. What this means is that - because the whole world is a symbol of the Son of God crucified - and - because the Son of God cannot be hurt...no one is guilty of anything. This is the basis of forgiveness, which is the basis of exodus and return to oneness...and the innocence that is oneness. Meanwhile, karma grinds away, continuing to crucify the Son of God. So it seems. But, because none are really guilty, no one is really accountable to karma. Karma is transcended by love. The greatest love is to lay down one's so-called "life" in the world. This so-called "life" is what seems to hurt the Son of God. It represents the sacrifice of his glory...his very life. For this reason, nothing in this world avoids death scenarios which are really confusing scenarios. Death scenarios accomplish nothing. But to lay down the will that desires this world to be its home...now, that is an accomplishment. It is an accomplishment that can be shared, and is shared with the entire Son...because without such a contribution, the Son of God would not be whole...is not whole without you. Our neighbor or "freind" benefits from our accomplishent, because our friend is part of the Son of God too, and is motivated by inspiration. In this way, laying down one's so-called "life" in the world is the greatest love of all. This renders the law of karma a moot point, nil, nothing...because the law of karma does not apply to the Son of God. The Son of God does not reincarnate once he has chosen to go home. Home, reincarnation and karma were just a nightmarish dream. Jesus
What is a humanistic value? ...to you. What is redundancy? ...to you. What does redundancy have to do with whether anything is true or not? It's considered a good thing in some systems where performance is critical. Lot's of good reasons for redundancy in the forgiveness process. Minds are habituated to make the same mistakes...so the responses/remedies are redundant. Many here have not heard the gospel, or subscribe to a twisted version. Some need to hear it in a way they can understand. For them, I say the same thing using slightly different symbols. This is why there are many parables and not just one. Finally, redundancy is good when one is making efforts to change his mind. In fact, it is required, especially when you consider the kind of mind-bending the world is imposing on your mind, and the kind of reversal is necessary to turn the Titanic of your experience away from the tips of the icebergs ahead in the dark. Please show an example of consistent inconsistency...what that looks like to you. Jesus
"There is no way at all to establish that there is a god and that there isn't a god." My, my, my. Such certainty that there either is or is not a god, and that there is no way to determine that there can a way to establish the truth of either proposition. By the very fact that you can use and understand the word God, suggests that you have a concept of what God is, and what God is not. Therefore, there can be no certainty that God can or cannot be known, unless your definition of God is that God is unknowable. And then of course, that will beg the question as to how you arrived with such certainty that God is unknowable. Once again, I suggest you get a refund for the 4 years of college you claim to have attended.
Are you suggesting that Christians voted against McCain, or that non Christians were strong enough in number to vote in Obama?
Vote by Church Attendance Total Obama McCain Other/No Answer More Than Weekly (12%) 43% 55% 2% Weekly (27% 43% 55% 2% Monthly (15%) 53% 46% 1% A Few Times a Year (28%) 59% 39% 2% Never (16%) 67% 30% 3%
I'm with you on this Neo, this Christianity stuff is stupid. Hard to believe people still believe this junk.