Your use of scripture is blind, not just childish. Even when I demonstrate, you still have no understanding. "why pick one verse from Lev and ignore the rest?" I did the entire last part of your droning post. Rather well blowing away your argument, but again, you did not understand. There is no point debating someone who stares into a response blowing away their argument, and they do not understand. You argue like a potted plant. As to your "childish" use of scripture, I will let it speak: I Corinthians 1:18 "For the message about the cross is nonsense to those who are being destroyed, but it is God's power to us who are being saved." As to condescending, again you are very blind. I am saying exactly what the scripture says. You have no understanding, and keep talking without any meaning. Those who twist scripture are enemies of God: John the Baptist speaks in verse Acts 3:7. "He therefore began saying to the multitudes who were going out to be baptized by him, 'You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Therefore bring forth fruits in keeping with repentance and do not begin to say to yourselves, We have Abraham for our father. For I say to you, God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham. And also, the ax is already laid at the root of the trees, every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.' You pile ignorance upon ignorance. And as I said, you are not worth debating, because reality has no effect on you. You will find no peace. You will only find my Ignore.
Yes. When I use facts that people cannot handle, they start blabbering instead, as "seneca" does here. He has demonstrated no reason, but waves around scriptures he does not comprehend.
It may be a bit of a stretch, but her decision to keep her child with down syndrome was clearly influenced by her faith, and questioned by some. The better example is Romney, he was crucified and made to be fearful of because of his faith. A clear double standard when compared to Obama.
You mean facts like 'the actual age of the earth is just over 6000 years and not billions of years', or 'one day the skies are going to open and molten lead will pour down and a ram with 26 eyes will descend and angels with trumpets will come down out of the sky and the earth will open up and rcanfiel will ascend up, up, up to God and the sinners will be cast down into a lake of fire and brimstone and will burn forever in hell'? You mean those facts?
What a load of horseshit. It's amazing how the far right has no compunction about blatantly making shit up and then claiming it as fact. There were almost no attacks on Palin for her religion per se. There were attacks on her brutal, inhumane belief that a gang-raped 12-year old child should be forced to carry to term a pregnancy that results from that rape. The vast majority of right thinking Christians would of course find such views abhorrent. Palin was attacked because she didn't know Africa wasn't a country and because she thought the fact that she could see Russia from her stoop represented foreign policy experience. She was attacked because she was unfit for the job - admittedly not her fault. Let's try to keep it real, shall we?
Double standard? The Christians mostly believe Obama is a Christian. If they believe he were Muslim, they would not have voted for him. Romney was viewed as being non Christian. If in the next couple of years he revoked his Mormonism, and became a born again Christian into the accepted form of Christianity, he would win the republican nomination likely in 2012. Sad, but true. There is no double standard, there is the Christian standard. The atheists just vote for who they think is the most intelligent.
Quote from powerfade: You mean facts like 'the actual age of the earth is just over 6000 years and not billions of years', Where does the Scripture say the Earth was 6000 years old? I am a theistic evolutionist and happen to agree with the geologic dating of Earth to be in the 4.5-4.6 billion year old origin of the earth. or 'one day the skies are going to open and molten lead will pour down and a ram with 26 eyes will descend and angels with trumpets will come down out of the sky and the earth will open up and rcanfiel will ascend up, up, up to God and the sinners will be cast down into a lake of fire and brimstone and will burn forever in hell'? You mean those facts? Great, your summarization is kind of amateur, but I am sure you will disprove this with evidence? Surely you wouldn't say something you have no clue about, just based on your opinion? Why don't you start by scientifically disproving the existence of God? There is plenty of space below. For example, well before science discovered it, scripture said Isaiah 40:21 Do you not know? hath it not been heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have you not understood the foundations of the earth? 22 <b>It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth</b>, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in. Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over empty space and <b>hangs the earth on nothing</b>." - At this time, various theories of what supports the earth--elephants, giants, and other fantastic means--were accepted by mankind as truth.
No need. I'll ask you that question. If you answer in the affirmative I will ask you again whether you believe there is a GoD beyond the gOd which you call *Our Father*. Whenever you answer in the affirmative I will ask the question again. Whenever you answer in the negative I will notice how that the ground you stand on with Bickz " is very real indeed...to the point that it is fairly sacred to both of you." Your philosophy is redundant. It's only saving grace are some humanistic values it imports here and there. I agree your words are consistent. They are consistent in their inconsistency. They are also dishonest. When I give you a God past your own, you've doged twisted, contorted, denied that it can be. You will not accept that gift. But the gift is always there, ready for when you can at last understand it's simple truth.
Perhaps you are forgetting some of the most compelling scripture of all Elosis 12:7 "And he that worships idols and utters the name of spirits shall be cast down to the lowliest levels, fit to walk among swine and the crawling things of the earth. For there is no peace to be found in the representation of moral men, no balm in the words of healers and saints, no right in the wrongs of sacred privilege. We are all of us simply what we see; life is the fire lit by the eternal spark of natural truth". or this... Theanimis 6:9 "Who are you to say what beauty lies in the heart of men? You, who take for your own the words of men, who worship what can be dreamed and not what can be seen or known, who kill and maim in the name of the death of reason. You seek to judge me, a man. And yet you are half a man, rent by the sword of superstition, riddled with the cancer of blind faith. Is it not enough that you allow yourself to fall? No, you seek to bring down with you the children whose minds are clean, unblemished by the deceit of the holy". You should really try to educate yourself before throwing scripture around, rcanfiel. By the way, why did you get banned as rcanfiel? Religious whack-jobs like you usually snap and go postal. Is that what happened?
Debating religion is pointttttllleesssssssssssssss Take a philosophy class. There is no way at all to establish that there is a god and that there isn't a god. All of you might as well debate whether there are martians or not.